Articles | Volume 22, issue 8
https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-22-2087-2025
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Peltigera lichen thalli produce highly potent ice-nucleating agents
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-2959', Anonymous Referee #1, 15 Nov 2024
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AR by Rosemary J. Eufemio on behalf of the Authors (24 Feb 2025)
This article presents investigations into lichen of the genus Peltigera as producers of ice nucleators (INs). It is well-conceived, methodologically sound, and enjoyable to read. The insights gained through these investigations are new and interesting, so they merit publication in Biogeosciences. There are a few minor issues I recommend the authors to consider in a revision:
1.) Peltigera are mostly ground-dwelling and have a compact morphology. Which process could dislocate particles small enough from them to escape the surface layer and reach higher altitudes? I would appreciate to a sentence or two on that issue in in the Conclusions.
2.) Lines 31-33 and lines 330-333 state: "Our analysis suggests that the INs released from this fungus in culture are 1000 times more efficient than the most potent bacterial INs from Pseudomonas syringae." I find the term "efficient" problematic in this context because "efficient" often refers to the activation temperature of INs, i.e., INs active > -10°C (e.g., Zhang et al., 2020, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.atmosres.2020.105129). You also define T50 as a measure of efficiency (lines 168-169).
3.) Line 113: What is meant with "bioavailability" here?
4.) Lines 168-169: "The temperature at which 50% of the droplets froze, T50, was recorded as a measure of the efficiency of the INs." I guess it means the same as "freezing efficiency", an expression first used in line 201? If so, please add (in brackets) this term to the end of the sentence in lines 168-169.
5.) Line 170: The T50 value of water is relatively high (-11°C). Were values of Peltigera samples corrected for that and, if so, how?
6.) Line 173: Consider replacing "robust" with "precise".
7.) Lines 212-216: The 96 droplets in TINA experiments may be large enough a number to derive differential IN-spectra from (see Vali, 2019, https://doi.org/10.5194/amt-12-1219-2019). Differential spectra afford clearer interpretation than cumulative spectra, especially in the context of your study.
8.) Table 1: Isn't it surprising that the warmest T50 was found in a species collected in the tropics? Could this be taken as an indication for IN production in Peltigera being similarly incidental as it seems to be in pollen (Kinney et al., 2024, doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2023-2705)?
9.) There appears to be a contradiction in lines 263-265: "Based on the fast growth rate and
presence of mycelial-like growth, we classified L01-tf-B03 as a lichen-associated fungus. It is notoriously difficult to isolate mycobionts (Cornejo et al., 2015), which are very slow growing, ..." Why should the fast growth rate seen in L01-tf-B03 support your classification when mycobionts are very slow growing?
10.) Lines 279-280: The T50 value of -23.5°C indicated here is much lower than the one mentioned in line 170 (-11°C). Please clarify.
11.) Lines 284-286: " The large decrease of over 4°C in bacterial freezing efficiency is in striking contrast to L01-tf-B03, for which the IN-activity is reduced by less than 1°C at the same concentration." I think this finding merits an attempt at interpretation.