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Phosphorus stress strongly reduced plant physiological activity, but only temporarily, in a mesocosm experiment with Zea mays colonized by arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi
Melanie S. Verlinden
Hamada AbdElgawad
Arne Ven
Lore T. Verryckt
Sebastian Wieneke
Ivan A. Janssens
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RC1: 'Comments on bg-2021-168', Anonymous Referee #1, 11 Aug 2021
I have made numerous comments in the PDF I read, and refer to that file for details, rather than repeating all comments here. I restrict myself to the main points.
I was a bit surprised that this manuscript was submitted to Biogeosciences, as I would have thought that a straight physiology or ecophysiology journalwould have been more appropriate. However, I will leave that aspect of my feedback to the Editor.
The authors quickly jumped to the conclusion that P effects must all be direct effects on photosynthesis, and appear rather dismissive of the idea that P might effect leaf growth, and the change in sink demand would then affect photosynthetic activity. Even though they cite some of the papers highlighting P effects on sink activity, with effects of photosyntheis being indirect, the message in those papers appears not to have ben taken on board. Tools exist to assess feedback inhibition of photosynthesis, but the literature dealing with that aspect wasn't discussed at all. For example:
Sharkey T D, Stitt M, Heineke D, Gerhardt R, Raschke K and Heldt H W 1986 Limitation of photosynthesis by carbon metabolism: II. O2-insensitive CO2 uptake results from limitation of triose phosphate utilization. Plant Physiol. 81, 1123-1129.
Sage R F and Sharkey T D 1987 The effect of temperature on the occurrence of O2 and CO2 insensitive photosynthesis in field grown plants. Plant Physiol. 84, 658-664. 10.1104/pp.84.3.658.
Plaut Z, Mayoral M L and Reinhold L 1987 Effect of altered sink: source ratio on photosynthetic metabolism of source leaves. Plant Physiol. 85, 786-791. 10.1104/pp.85.3.786.
The authors need to consult a recent textbook to check where different reactions related to carbon metabolism in C4 plants occur, because it is not correct that synthesis of starch and sucrose occur in different cell types. Both require Rubisco, which only occurs in the bundle-sheat cells, and not in mesophyll cells.
It is true that mycorrhizas may mobilise organic P or sorbed P, but when it comes to arbuscular mycorrhizas (AM), the cited textbook (Smith & Read) points out that AM are unlikley to do that. Their role is to enhance the volume of soil that can be explored. So, the text needs to be tweaked a bit to acknowledge that.
SLA is not a simple measure of leaf thickess, but of both leaf thickness and leaf density. Leaf density is affected by carbohydrate concentrations and amount of cell walls.
'Content' is generally used when amounts are expressed per plant (part); when amonts are expressed per unit mass or area, 'concentration' is recommended.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', M. S. Verlinden, 18 Nov 2021
We appreciate the very useful and constructive criticisms of the reviewer on our manuscript. Below are itemized replies to the referee comments and the suggestions made in the manuscript. The line numbers (L_ _) in our replies refer to those of the original manuscript.
1) I was a bit surprised that this manuscript was submitted to Biogeosciences, as I would have thought that a straight physiology or ecophysiology journal would have been more appropriate. However, I will leave that aspect of my feedback to the Editor.
REPLY: We opted for Biogeosciences instead of a plant physiology journal because we envisage a more general audience for our results. Although the measurements presented in the manuscript focus for a large part on leaf-level responses, the main incentive for this study was the importance of nutrient availability and plant-mycorrhiza interactions in determining carbon cycling. We expect that our results will be useful for the land surface modeling community and particularly to those who are aiming to implement carbon-nutrient interactions in these models.
2) The authors quickly jumped to the conclusion that P effects must all be direct effects on photosynthesis, and appear rather dismissive of the idea that P might effect leaf growth, and the change in sink demand would then affect photosynthetic activity. Even though they cite some of the papers highlighting P effects on sink activity, with effects of photosynthesis being indirect, the message in those papers appears not to have been taken on board. Tools exist to assess feedback inhibition of photosynthesis, but the literature dealing with that aspect wasn't discussed at all. For example:
- Sharkey T D, Stitt M, Heineke D, Gerhardt R, Raschke K and Heldt H W 1986 Limitation of photosynthesis by carbon metabolism: II. O2-insensitive CO2 uptake results from limitation of triose phosphate utilization. Plant Physiol. 81, 1123-1129.
- Sage R F and Sharkey T D 1987 The effect of temperature on the occurrence of O2 and CO2 insensitive photosynthesis in field grown plants. Plant Physiol. 84, 658-664. 10.1104/pp.84.3.658.
- Plaut Z, Mayoral M L and Reinhold L 1987 Effect of altered sink: source ratio on photosynthetic metabolism of source leaves. Plant Physiol. 85, 786-791. 10.1104/pp.85.3.786.
REPLY: We agree with the reviewer that changes in sink demand could have played a role. In our experiment, however, leaves turned yellow at the start, but greened up later, albeit only in the presence of AMF. Plants without AMF died prematurely. These results indicate that sink demand is unlikely to be the main responsible for the observed changes.
In the revised manuscript, we will add extra text on the direct and indirect effects of P on photosynthesis, including the possibility for changes in sink demand:
- Inorganic phosphate (Pi) directly affects the activity of Calvin cycle enzymes through the level of activation. For instance, Pi is required for light activation of Rubisco (Parry et al., 2008). It also directly affects maximum rate of CO2-limited carboxylation (vcmax) and triose phosphate utilization (Lewis et al., 1994) and RuBP-regeneration-limited rates of electron transport (Loustau et al., 1999).
- On the other hand, Pi can indirectly affect photosynthesis through the changes in stromal pH (Bhagwat 1981), where the consumption of Pi as a substrate of photosynthesis could decrease photosynthesis by a direct effect of low stromal Pi concentration on Rubisco. Moreover, the effect of P on photosynthesis depends on the dynamic interactions between sink and source tissues. The low P level decreases sink strength which imposes the primary limitation on photosynthesis (Pieters et al., 2001). Pi deprivation impacts on photosynthesis can also be explained by diminishing carbon export to sinks (Pieters et al., 2001). Moreover, low sink strength lowers sucrose synthesis and restricts the recycling of Pi back to the chloroplast thus limiting the rate of net photosynthesis (Paul and Foyer, 2001).
- Decreasing cytoplasmic Pi also limits the photosynthesis through end product (feedback) inhibition and this end-product inhibition could be due to high concentrations of triose-P. In this regard The total Pi within the chloroplast is relatively constant, thus high triose-P is automatically coupled with low Pi, which in turn could limit photosynthesis. For example, Pi deficiency drastically decreased RuBP content in the Pi-deficient leaves and hence the rate of photosynthesis. On the other hand, at high Pi supply, triose-P export competes with ribulose 1,5-bisphosphate (RuBP) regeneration and the rate of photosynthesis can be diminished.
Bhagwat, A. S.: Activation of spinach ribulose 1,5- bisphosphate carboxylase by inorganic phosphate. Plant Sci. Lett., 23, 197–206, 1981.
Lewis, J. D., Griffin, K. L., Thomas, R. B. and Strain, B. R.: Phosphorus supply affects the photosynthetic capacity of loblolly pine grown in elevated carbon dioxide. Tree Physiol., 14, 1229-1244, doi: 10.1093/treephys/14.11.1229, 1994.
Loustau, D., Brahim, M. B., Gaudillère, J. P. and Dreyer, E.: Photosynthetic responses to phosphorus nutrition in two-year-old maritime pine seedlings. Tree Physiol., 19, 707-715, doi: 10.1093/treephys/19.11.707, 1999.
Parry, M. A., Keys, A. J., Madgwick, P. J., Carmo-Silva, A. E. and Andralojc, P. J.: Rubisco regulation: a role for inhibitors. J. Exp. Bot., 59, 1569-1580, doi: 10.1093/jxb/ern084, 2008.
Paul, M. J. and Foyer, C. H.: Sink regulation of photosynthesis. J. Exp. Bot., 52, 1383-1400, doi: 10.1093/jexbot/52.360.1383, 2001.
Pieters, A. J., Paul, M. J. and Lawlor, D. W.: Low sink demand limits photosynthesis under Pi deficiency. J. Exp. Bot., 52, 1083–1091, doi: 10.1093/jexbot/52.358.1083, 2001.
3) The authors need to consult a recent textbook to check where different reactions related to carbon metabolism in C4 plants occur, because it is not correct that synthesis of starch and sucrose occur in different cell types. Both require Rubisco, which only occurs in the bundle-sheat cells, and not in mesophyll cells.
REPLY: The interpretation of the cited publication (Friso et al., 2010) was taken from Schlüter et al. (2013), stating ‘Starch accumulates almost exclusively in the bundle sheath while sucrose synthesis takes place in the mesophyll’.
We consulted other sources, but found similar information.
“Sucrose was predominantly synthesized in the mesophyll cells and starch in the bundle sheath cells” (Furbank and Kelly, 2021). “In Zea mays L. and Atriplex spongiosa F. Muell., sucrose-phosphate synthase (key enzyme in sucrose biosynthesis) was located almost exclusively in the mesophyll cells” (Lunn and Furbank, 1997). We can add these extra references to the manuscript, or if preferred, delete the phrases that are in doubt.
Friso, G., Majeran, W., Huang, M. S., Sun, Q. and van Wijk, K. J.: Reconstruction of metabolic pathways, protein expression, and homeostasis machineries across maize bundle sheath and mesophyll chloroplasts: large-scale quantitative proteomics using the first maize genome assembly. Plant Physiol., 152, 1219–1250, doi: 10.1104/pp.109.152694, 2010.
Furbank, R. and Kelly, S.: Finding the C4 sweet spot: cellular compartmentation of carbohydrate metabolism in C4 photosynthesis. J. Exp. Bot., 72, 6018–6026, doi: 10.1093/jxb/erab290, 2021.
Lunn, J. and Furbank, R.: Localisation of sucrose-phosphate synthase and starch in leaves of C4 plants. Planta 202, 106–111, doi: 10.1007/s004250050108, 1997.
Schlüter, U., Colmsee, C., Scholz, U., Bräutigam, A., Weber, A. P. M., Zellerhoff, N., Bucher, M., Fahnenstich, H. and Sonnewald, U.: Adaptation of maize source leaf metabolism to stress related disturbances in carbon, nitrogen and phosphorus balance. BMC Genomics 14, 442, doi: 10.1186/1471-2164-14-442, 2013.
4) It is true that mycorrhizas may mobilise organic P or sorbed P, but when it comes to arbuscular mycorrhizas (AM), the cited textbook (Smith & Read) points out that AM are unlikely to do that. Their role is to enhance the volume of soil that can be explored. So, the text needs to be tweaked a bit to acknowledge that.
REPLY: Here we disagree with the reviewer. Many studies have shown that AMF (contrary to ectomycorrhizae) are especially important for plant uptake of P, not only because of the increased soil volume explored, but because they produce exudates that liberate P from the minerals (a.o. Smith et al., 2011; Burghelea et al., 2015; Kobae, 2019; Etesami et al., 2021; Jansa et al., 2021). For example glomalin, a glycoprotein secreted by AMF, aids the uptake of nutrients such as Fe and P that are difficult to dissolve (Miransari, 2010; Emran et al., 2017; Begum et al., 2019). We will adapt this section of the manuscript, including these additional information and references.
Begum, N., Qin, C., Ahanger, M. A., Raza, S., Khan, M. I., Ashraf, M., Ahmed, N. and Zhang, L.: Role of arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi in plant growth regulation: implications in abiotic stress tolerance. Front. Plant Sci., 10, 1068, doi: 10.3389/fpls.2019.01068, 2019.
Burghelea, C., Zaharescu, D. G., Dontsova, K., Maier, R., Huxman, T. and Chorover, J.: Mineral nutrient mobilization by plants from rock: influence of rock type and arbuscular mycorrhiza. Biogeochemistry, 124, 187-203, doi: 10.1007/s10533-015-0092-5, 2015.
Emran, M., Rashad, M., Gispert, M., and Pardini, G.: Increasing soil nutrients availability and sustainability by glomalin in alkaline soils. Agricul. Biosystems Eng., 2, 74–84, 2017.
Etesami, H., Jeong, B. R., and Glick, B. R.: Contribution of arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi, phosphate–solubilizing bacteria, and silicon to P uptake by plant. Front. Plant Sci., 12, 1355, doi: 10.3389/fpls.2021.699618, 2021.
Jansa, J., Finlay, R., Wallander, H., Smith, F. A. and Smith, S. E.: Role of mycorrhizal symbioses in phosphorus cycling, in: Phosphorus in Action. Soil Biology, vol 26, edited by: Bünemann, E., Oberson, A. and Frossard, E., Springer, Berlin, Heidelberg, Germany, 137-168, doi: 10.1007/978-3-642-15271-9_6, 2011.
Kobae, Y.: Dynamic phosphate uptake in arbuscular mycorrhizal roots under field conditions. Front. Environ. Sci., 6, 159, doi: 10.3389/fenvs.2018.00159, 2019.
Smith, S. E., Jakobsen, I., Grønlund, M. and Smith, F. A.: Roles of arbuscular mycorrhizas in plant phosphorus nutrition: Interactions between pathways of phosphorus uptake in arbuscular mycorrhizal roots have important implications for understanding and manipulating plant phosphorus acquisition. Plant Physiol., 156, 1050-1057, doi: 10.1104/pp.111.174581, 2011.
5) SLA is not a simple measure of leaf thickness, but of both leaf thickness and leaf density. Leaf density is affected by carbohydrate concentrations and amount of cell walls.
REPLY: The reviewer made a good point here. With the thinner feel of the leaves in mind, we went too short here. The higher SLA indeed points to lower leaf density and/or leaf thickness. The lower concentration of leaf compounds in the non-P-fertilized mesocosms (as shown in table 1) might suggest lower leaf densities indeed. We will adapt this in the manuscript.
6) 'Content' is generally used when amounts are expressed per plant (part); when amounts are expressed per unit mass or area, 'concentration' is recommended.
REPLY: We agree with the reviewer. We will change ‘content’ to ‘concentration’ where appropriate.
Below we list the additional comments made by Referee 1 in the manuscript.
7) L15: Why start with 'Despite'? I suggest to start with 'Phosphorus' and wrote this as two statements about P. (Despite doesn't make sense here.)
REPLY: We will change this in the revised manuscript to ‘ Phosphorus (P) is an essential macronutrient for plant growth and one of the least available nutrients in soil. P limitation is often a major constraint for plant growth globally.’
8)L17-18: Change ‘...experiments have been carried out to study the long-term effects on the yield, data on P addition effects to seasonal variation in leaf-level photosynthesis are scarce.’ To ‘...experiments have been carried out to study the long-term effects on yield, data on P addition effects on seasonal variation of leaf-level photosynthesis are scarce.’
REPLY: We will make this change as suggested.
9) L20-22: The primary effect of P is just as likely on growth, rather than photosynthesis, and effects on photosynthesis likely reflect a reduced sink demand on source activity.
REPLY: See reply to comment 2 above.
10) L34: Replace ‘participates in the formation’ by ‘is a component’.
REPLY: We will adapt as suggested.
11) L35-36: I don't know what this means, but do know that P is important in P-containing metabolites that play a role in carbon metabolism. Schulze et al. is an odd reference here. I think this one would be more appropriate: Veneklaas E J, Lambers H, Bragg J, Finnegan P M, Lovelock C E, Plaxton W C, Price C, Scheible W-R, Shane M W, White P J and Raven J A 2012 Opportunities for improving phosphorus-use efficiency in crop plants. New Phytol. 195, 306-320. 10.1111/j.1469-8137.2012.04190.x.
REPLY: We will add the suggested reference.
12) L38: I can see how plants experience P stress, or, rather plant productivity is limited by P, but lands doesn't really experience P stress.
REPLY: We will rephrase this sentence to ‘On more than one third of the arable land worldwide, plant productivity is considered to be limited by P.’
13) L40: Delete ‘the’ in ‘…effect on the yield’.
REPLY: We will delete as suggested.
14) L40-41: Reference suggestion:
Rodríguez D, Andrade F H and Goudriaan J 2000 Does assimilate supply limit leaf expansion in wheat grown in the field under low phosphorus availability? Field Crops Res. 67, 227-238. 10.1016/s0378-4290(00)00098-8.
REPLY: We thank the reviewer for this suggestion and will add the reference to the manuscript.
15) L43-44: Reference suggestions for effects of phosphorus on photosynthesis:
Brooks A 1986 Effects of phosphorus nutrition on ribulose-1,5-bisphosphate carboxylase activation, photosynthetic quantum yield and amounts of some Calvin-cycle metabolites in spinach leaves. Funct Plant Biol 13, 221-237. doi:10.1071/PP9860221.
Brooks A, Woo K C and Wong S C 1988 Effects of phosphorus nutrition on the response of photosynthesis to CO2 and O2, activation of ribulose bisphosphate carboxylase and amounts of ribulose bisphosphate and 3-phosphoglycerate in spinach leaves. Photosyn Res 15, 133-141. 10.1007/bf00035257.
Rodriguez D and Goudriaan J 1995 Effects of phosphorus and drought stresses on dry-matter and phosphorus allocation in wheat. J. Plant Nutr. 18, 2501-2517.
Rodríguez D, Keltjens W G and Goudriaan J 1998 Plant leaf area expansion and assimilate production in wheat (Triticum aestivum L.) growing under low phosphorus conditions. Plant Soil 200, 227-240. 10.1023/a:1004310217694.
REPLY: We thank the reviewer for this suggestions and will add these references to the manuscript.
16) L47 ‘P is required for adenosine triphosphate (ATP) synthesis’: This is true, but ATP is only a minute fraction of the metabolite P pool. See: Veneklaas E J, Lambers H, Bragg J, Finnegan P M, Lovelock C E, Plaxton W C, Price C, Scheible W-R, Shane M W, White P J and Raven J A 2012 Opportunities for improving phosphorus-use efficiency in crop plants. New Phytol. 195, 306-320. 10.1111/j.1469-8137.2012.04190.x.
REPLY: We will add the reference to the manuscript.
17) L48 ‘P-deficiency therefore leads to a decrease in RuBP pool size and insufficient ATP, and consequently to a decrease in photosynthetic C assimilation.’: Or is that decline due to a decreased sink demand?
REPLY: See reply to comment 2 above.
18) L53: Low sink demand for sugars, and feedback inhibition of photosynthesis: Sharkey T D, Stitt M, Heineke D, Gerhardt R, Raschke K and Heldt H W 1986 Limitation of photosynthesis by carbon metabolism: II. O2-insensitive CO2 uptake results from limitation of triose phosphate utilization. Plant Physiol. 81, 1123-1129.
REPLY: We’ll add the information and reference to the manuscript.
19) L61: In science, we never set off to 'verify', but we seek to test. That test may well lead to a verification, but that was never the intention per se.
REPLY: We’ll replace ‘verify’ with ‘test’.
20) L62-64 ‘At low soil P availability, we expected low leaf-level photosynthetic and respiratory activity, associated with reduced chlorophyll and photosynthetic enzymes.’: And how can you discard that these effects are the result of reduced leaf growth and sink demand? See: Pieters A J, Paul M J and Lawlor D W 2001 Low sink demand limits photosynthesis under Pi deficiency. J. Exp. Bot. 52, 1083-1091. 10.1093/jexbot/52.358.1083.
REPLY: See reply to comment 2 above.
21) L92 ‘seasonal evolution’: That's what you would use in French, but not in English.
REPLY: We’ll replace with ‘seasonal development’.
22) L96, L101, 105, 109 ‘net assimilation rate’: Do not use that expression here, as it means something different in growth analysis; inserts CO2.
REPLY: We’ll insert CO2 as suggested.
23) L108, 111 ‘light response curves’: hyphenate
REPLY: We’ll hyphenate as suggested.
24) L115: add ‘to’
REPLY: We’ll make the addition as suggested.
25) L116: delete ‘phoshor-‘
REPLY: We’ll delete as suggested.
26) L118: use ‘rate’ instead of ‘measure’
REPLY: We’ll adapt as suggested.
27) L119: use ‘leaves’ instead of ‘leaf tissue’
REPLY: We’ll adapt as suggested.
28) L121 : use ‘sugar concentration’ instead of ‘sugars’
REPLY: We’ll adapt as suggested.
29) L125, 126 ‘(Shimadzu SPD-M10Avp)’: Add city and country
REPLY: We’ll add ‘Kyoto, Japan’, to the instrument name.
30) L125: remove ‘different’
REPLY: We’ll remove as suggested.
31) L134: use ‘staining’ instead of ‘colouring’
REPLY: We’ll change as suggested.
32) L154: replace ‘as compared to’ with ‘than in’
REPLY: We’ll make the replacement.
33) L157: SLA does not simply reflect thickness, but also density, which is affected by accumulation of carbohydrates. It is very likely that leaf mass density accounts for the difference in SLA, rather than leaf thickness, and Table 1 shows no information on thickness. It would have been easy to include the DW/FW ratio, to get information on density.
REPLY: See reply to comment 5 above.
34) L186 ‘direct rubisco’: what does that mean in this context?
REPLY: The activity of Rubisco was determined directly, without incubation of the extract in the presence of 10 mM HCO3- and 20 mM Mg2+ to convert the non-carbamylated Rubisco into the carbamylated form.
35) L192: replace ‘compared to’ with ‘than during’
REPLY: We’ll make the replacement as suggested.
36) L201 ‘Phosphorus’: lowercase p
REPLY: We’ll correct as suggested.
37) L202, 217: replace ‘statistical’ with ‘significant’
REPLY: We’ll adapt as suggested.
38) L210, in table 1: spelling should be ‘beta carotene’
REPLY: We’ll correct as suggested.
39) L220: soils are never P-limited, but plants are, if grown in low-P soils soils can be P-impoverished, however
REPLY: We’ll change ‘P-limited’ to ‘P-impoverished’.
40) L223: replace ‘neither had an’ with ‘had no’
REPLY: We’ll adapt as suggested.
41) L228-229: N:P rations are never P limited; what you mean is that these ratios indicate that plant growth is P limited.
REPLY: We’ll adapt the sentence to: ‘Since growth of plants with leaf N:P ratios higher than 16 up to 20 is considered to be P-limited, the high leaf N:P ratios of about 37 illustrate a clear P-limitation of plant-growth for the non-P-fertilized treatments in C1,… ’.
42) L230-231: why optimal (a grossly overused word, when you likely mean favorable)
REPLY: We’ll replace the word as suggested.
43) L232-233 ‘The initial P-limitation present during C1, strongly limited leaf-level Photosynthesis…’: You can't tell that, as the effects on photosynthesis may reflect sink limitation of source activity.
REPLY: See reply to comment 2 above.
44) L234-235 ‘This inhibitory effect can be attributed to the decrease in the pool size of ribulose-1,5-bisphosphate and its regeneration’: Or feedback inhibition of photosynthesis. That could have been tested by assessing O2 sensitivity of CO2 assimilation.
REPLY: We’ll add this information as possible explanation of the inhibitory effect. We did not assess O2 sensitivity of CO2 assimilation.
45) L239: what does a 'suffering plant' look like? This word must be avoided in academic writing about plants.
REPLY: We’ll change the sentence to: ‘C4 plants can maintain adequate levels of P in the bundle
cells, and their growth is therefore generally less constrained by P limitation as compared to C3 plants.’
46) L244, 260: replace ‘content’ with ‘concentration’
REPLY: We’ll adapt as suggested.
47) L252: replace ‘in case’ with ‘when’
REPLY: We’ll change as suggested.
48) L258: concentration - use content only when amounts are expressed per plan (part)
REPLY: We will replace content by concentration.
49) L259: was that perhaps 'very low'?
REPLY: The reported decreases in starch levels under low P conditions come from Schlüter et al. They just report ‘low P’.
50) L261-262: ‘Unlike C3 plants, synthesis of sucrose and starch in C4 leaves takes place in different cell types.’: Please check
REPLY: See reply to comment 3 above.
51) L262-263 ‘Whereas starch accumulates in the bundle sheath, sucrose synthesis takes place in the mesophyll (Friso et al., 2010)’:This is not correct. The mesophyll cells lack Rubisco, so do not produce triose-P, and therefore neither starch nor sucrose. They have PEP-carboxylase, and export C4 compounds to the bundle-sheath cells.
REPLY: See reply to comment 3 above.
52) L263-264 ‘A shift towards sucrose or starch would thus affect the metabolism of both cell types in different ways.’: not really
REPLY: See also reply to comment 3 above. If preferred, this sentence can be deleted.
53) L267-268 ‘Due to stress, a larger proportion of starch can possibly be converted to soluble sugars, thereby decreasing the osmotic potential as a form of protection (da Silva and Arrabaça, 2004).’: Relevant under water stress, but makes no sense in this context.
REPLY: We will remove this sentence from the manuscript.
54) L271: replace ‘and’ with ‘which’
REPLY: We’ll adapt as suggested.
55) L283: replace ‘was’ by ‘is’
REPLY: We’ll correct this.
56) L288 ‘revival’: odd word to use here – change
REPLY: Well replace ‘revival’ by ‘recovery’.
57) L293: remove ‘(fungus-root)’
REPLY: We’ll remove as suggested.
58) L295: correct spelling ‘extends’
REPLY: We’ll correct as suggested.
59) L296 ‘Besides, mycorrhizal fungi improve phosphate solubility’: That would be true for ECM, but is not relevant for AM that are the subject here.
REPLY: See reply to comment 4 above.
60) L301-302 ‘The ‘machinery-limited’ photosynthesis system’: You don't know that. It could be limited by demand and feedback inhibition.
REPLY: We’ll remove ‘machinery limited’.
61) L305-306 ‘To conclude, low P availability significantly decreased photosynthetic capacity, associated with reduced concentrations of photosynthetic enzymes and pigments.’: This dismisses any effects of sink, as alluded to above.
REPLY: See reply to comment 2 above.
62) L433 ‘Smith, S. E. and Read, D. J. (Eds.): Mycorrhizal Symbiosis (Third Edition), Academic Press, London, UK, 2008.’: They were the authors of that book, rather than the editors.
REPLY: We’ll remove the ‘(Eds.)’ from the reference.
63) L449: replace ‘.’ With ‘,’
REPLY: We’ll make this correction.
64) L458: replace ‘Victoria’ with ‘Melbourne’
REPLY: We’ll replace as suggested.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-2021-168-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', M. S. Verlinden, 18 Nov 2021
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RC2: 'Comment on bg-2021-168', Anonymous Referee #2, 27 Sep 2021
This is a well written and interesting paper that reports on the effects of P deficiency on photosynthesis in mesocosm experiment in 2016, and includes an impressive range of measured parameters. It argues that P deficiency has wide range effects on leaf scale photosynthetic parameters, and that mycorrhiza (AMF) can alleviate the low P effects in comparison with fertilized plants, presumably by efficient mobilization of soil P. However, I think there are some issues with the paper, which may require significant changes before publication in BG.
Perhaps the main difficulty I had was due to the fact that this seems to be at least the 5th in a series of papers on the same experiment(s) that cover various aspects of the same story. Notably, the main point of the paper on the AMF compensation for low soil P is already made in the other paper, repeatedly. Further, the other papers seem to contain complementary information that would be hard work to extract to fully understand the current results in the proper context. For example, it seems that the main point is the ‘recovery’ from ‘P stress’ in most leaf parameters in the 2nd campaign (on a quick look this is what Fig. 1 generally show: The P stress is essentially gone in C2). But starting with very low rates of photosynthesis (Amax J, etc.), one must assume the control were small plants in C2. But there is no info on total leaf area and biomass to account for this. There is no information on the root system to support the conclusion that it’s only the AMF that extended the P uptake, and not changes in root/shoot or other forms of expanding root system.
As the authors indicate, P nutrition is linked to ADP/ATP balance, as well as other P-dependent processes, which and can influence the plant functioning. And so, in a detail physiological paper, some of these potential effects could be discussed/mentioned. There are also some textbook type issues but already mentioned in the Discussion so will not repeat, but clearly need to be checked.
The lower leaf P in the C2 in all cases (while N increased) is not clearly consistent with the C2 recovery being an all P recovery, which seems to be the main argument. The link to SLA (a parameter not well defined) is hard to make as SLA also decreased. It seems that P per leaf weight and not area could have helped here. And that the leaf recovery in general was not necessarily (or only) due to P buildup in the leaves
In Fig. 2, panel A can be linked to the Methods, but not panel B, considering the AMF was measured in bags without roots?
Table 1 contains a lot of information but, for example, it is difficult to understand how from C1 to C2 N goes up and P goes down but the N:P decreases?
Finally, another important example of the problematic spread across many papers, is that in some of the other papers (which I just eyed briefly) it seems “ecosystem-scale” GPP (and NPP) was estimated, but there is no discussion on agreement or not with the leaf scale photosynthesis. I think this is a particularly significant point here when what seems to be a purely physiological paper is submitted to a Biogeochemistry journal, but no attempt whatsoever is made to link the P story to biogeochemistry.
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', M. S. Verlinden, 18 Nov 2021
Below are itemized replies to the referee comments and the suggestions made in the manuscript.
1) This is a well written and interesting paper that reports on the effects of P deficiency on photosynthesis in mesocosm experiment in 2016, and includes an impressive range of measured parameters. It argues that P deficiency has wide range effects on leaf scale photosynthetic parameters, and that mycorrhiza (AMF) can alleviate the low P effects in comparison with fertilized plants, presumably by efficient mobilization of soil P. However, I think there are some issues with the paper, which may require significant changes before publication in BG.
REPLY: We thank the reviewer for these positive notes and appreciate the useful and constructive review.
2) Perhaps the main difficulty I had was due to the fact that this seems to be at least the 5th in a series of papers on the same experiment(s) that cover various aspects of the same story. Notably, the main point of the paper on the AMF compensation for low soil P is already made in the other paper, repeatedly.
REPLY: We believe there was some confusion here. The other papers mentioned by the reviewer do not all deal with the same experiment. There were two different experiments in consecutive years (2016 and 2017), having different treatments and targeting different research questions. In 2016, the experiment included N and P addition treatments, while in 2017 the experiment consisted of a P gradient. So far, one article focussed on the 2016 experiment (Verlinden et al., 2018), while the other three (Ven et al., 2019, 2020a, 2020b) report results from the 2017 experiment.
The manuscript submitted to Biogeosciences contains unique data and analyses that were not included in any of these other papers (and measurements that were done only in 2016, not in 2017).
Ven, A., Verbruggen, E., Verlinden, M. S., Olsson, P. A., Wallander, H. and Vicca, S.: Mesh bags underestimated arbuscular mycorrhizal abundance but captured fertilization effects in a mesocosm experiment. Plant Soil, 446, 563–575, doi: 10.1007/s11104-019-04368-4, 2020a.
Ven, A., Verlinden, M. S., Fransen, E., Olsson, P. A., Verbruggen, E., Wallander, H. and Vicca, S.: Phosphorus addition increased carbon partitioning to autotrophic respiration but not to biomass production in an experiment with Zea mays. Plant Cell Environ., 43, 2054–2065, doi: 10.1111/pce.13785, 2020b.
Ven, A., Verlinden, M. S., Verbruggen, E., and Vicca, S.: Experimental evidence that phosphorus fertilization and arbuscular mycorrhizal symbiosis can reduce the carbon cost of phosphorus uptake. Funct. Ecol., 33, 2215-2225, doi:10.1111/1365-2435.13452, 2019.
Verlinden, M. S., Ven, A., Verbruggen, E., Janssens, I. A., Wallander, H. and Vicca, S.: Favorable effect of mycorrhizae on biomass production efficiency exceeds their carbon cost in a fertilization experiment. Ecology, 99, 2525–2534, doi: 10.1002/ecy.2502, 2018.
3) Further, the other papers seem to contain complementary information that would be hard work to extract to fully understand the current results in the proper context. For example, it seems that the main point is the ‘recovery’ from ‘P stress’ in most leaf parameters in the 2nd campaign (on a quick look this is what Fig. 1 generally show: The P stress is essentially gone in C2). But starting with very low rates of photosynthesis (Amax J, etc.), one must assume the control were small plants in C2. But there is no info on total leaf area and biomass to account for this. There is no information on the root system to support the conclusion that it’s only the AMF that extended the P uptake, and not changes in root/shoot or other forms of expanding root system.
REPLY: The paper by Verlinden et al. (2018), which is referred to the most, handles with the same experiment and shows the results on plant above- and belowground biomass and carbon partitioning. It shows indeed that both the partitioning to roots and to AMF is larger in the non-P-fertilized mesocosms as compared to the P-fertilized mesocosms. We will incorporate this in the revised manuscript. In response to comment 8 of reviewer 2, we will also include more explicit links to the ecosystem-scale responses.
4) As the authors indicate, P nutrition is linked to ADP/ATP balance, as well as other P-dependent processes, which and can influence the plant functioning. And so, in a detail physiological paper, some of these potential effects could be discussed/mentioned. There are also some textbook type issues but already mentioned in the Discussion so will not repeat, but clearly need to be checked.
REPLY: We agree with the reviewer and will add the following to the discussion:
A decrease in stromal inorganic phosphate (Pi) concentration could diminish the rate of photophosphorylation and thereby reduce the rate of photosynthesis through increased energization of the thylakoid membrane, decreased electron flow (Rychter et al., 2005). In this regard, the Pi translocator provides an indirect shuttle system for transferring ATP and NADPH to the cytoplasm involving exchange of triose-P and PGA (Flugge 1999). The reduced concentration of Pi leads to a reduction in ATP/ADP, which could restrict the activity of Rubisco activase and therefore Rubisco carbamylation (Portis 1992).
Pi also plays a role in carbohydrate metabolism. It is involved in starch synthesis through affecting the key regulatory enzyme for starch synthesis (ADP-glucose pyrophosphorylase) (Preiss 1994). Pi is involved in the mechanisms that control the enzyme activity of the SPS protein including allosteric control by G6P (activator) and Pi (inhibitor) and (ii) protein phosphorylation (Winter et al., 2000)
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Rychter, A. M. and Rao, I. M.: Role of phosphorus in photosynthetic carbon metabolism, in: Handbook of photosynthesis, edited by: Pessarakli, M., Taylor and Francis, London, UK, 123-148, 2005.
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5) The lower leaf P in the C2 in all cases (while N increased) is not clearly consistent with the C2 recovery being an all P recovery, which seems to be the main argument. The link to SLA (a parameter not well defined) is hard to make as SLA also decreased. It seems that P per leaf weight and not area could have helped here. And that the leaf recovery in general was not necessarily (or only) due to P buildup in the leaves
REPLY: We are very thankful to the reviewer for this comment. It seems that in the process of editing, the values of leaf P in the table were wrongly copied (same values of SLA are shown). Below we paste the correct P-values (per leaf are, left table), showing the increase in leaf P in C2 for all treatments. We expressed the P concentration not per leaf mass but per leaf area since the CO2 assimilation rate is also expressed per leaf area. The table on the right shows the P concentration per dry leaf mass.
leaf P
g m-2
mean
(SE)
0.018a
(0.001)
0.018a
(0.001)
0.056b
(0.008)
0.066bc
(0.008)
0.103d
(0.003)
0.102d
(0.022)
0.092cd
(0.005)
0.111d
(0.008)
leaf P
mg (g dry mass)-1
mean
(SE)
0.90
(0.04)
0.94
(0.02)
1.98
(0.24)
1.99
(0.13)
2.70
(0.08)
2.61
(0.62)
1.87
(0.06)
2.49
(0.16)
6) In Fig. 2, panel A can be linked to the Methods, but not panel B, considering the AMF was measured in bags without roots?
REPLY: The reviewer is correct. The methodology on AMF (section 2.2.4 ‘Mycorrhizal fungi’ in the Material and Methods) concerns the hyphal length density determination in mesh bags, of which results are shown in panel A of Fig. 2.
Mycorrhizal colonization (shown in panel B) on the other hand was examined in C1 and C2 by sampling roots from two plants per mesocosm. Per plant, 20 cm of one lateral root containing root hair, was excavated, cut, and stored. Mycorrhizal colonization was quantified by counting arbuscules, vesicules, and hyphae applying the gridline intersection method (Vierheilig et al., 2005). The methodology on root colonization determination is described more elaborately in Verlinden et al. (2018). We will add this information to the revised manuscript.
Vierheilig, H., Schweiger, P. and Brundrett, M.: An overview of methods for the detection and observation of arbuscular mycorrhizal fungi in roots. Physiol. Plantarum, 125, 393-404, doi: 10.1111/j.1399-3054.2005.00564.x, 2005.
7) Table 1 contains a lot of information but, for example, it is difficult to understand how from C1 to C2 N goes up and P goes down but the N:P decreases?
REPLY: We apologize for the mistake we made in the table. See also 2 comments before. The P-values in the manuscript were not the correct ones. Leaf P indeed increased in C2.
8) Finally, another important example of the problematic spread across many papers, is that in some of the other papers (which I just eyed briefly) it seems “ecosystem-scale” GPP (and NPP) was estimated, but there is no discussion on agreement or not with the leaf scale photosynthesis. I think this is a particularly significant point here when what seems to be a purely physiological paper is submitted to a Biogeochemistry journal, but no attempt whatsoever is made to link the P story to biogeochemistry.
REPLY: We thank the reviewer for this suggestion. We will further improve the discussion by including an explicit link between ecosystem-scale GPP and leaf-level measurements. The ecosystem-scale GPP measurements corresponded very well to the leaf-scale measurements, as both were in the first weeks (very) low in the absence of P addition, but showed a sudden increase about 6 weeks after planting.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-2021-168-AC2
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', M. S. Verlinden, 18 Nov 2021