Articles | Volume 21, issue 12
https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-21-3015-2024
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the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.Separating above-canopy CO2 and O2 measurements into their atmospheric and biospheric signatures
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AR by Kim Faassen on behalf of the Authors (06 May 2024)
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Thank you for the opportunity to review this manuscript. The authors present a thorough comparison between ERatmos and ERforest methodologies in quantifying the exchange of O2 and CO2 above a forest canopy. They demonstrate that ERatmos could be significantly influenced by entrainment, which results in unrealistic values. Consequently, the authors recommend against using ERatmos for constraining O2 and CO2 exchanges at a local scale, advocating instead for measurements at multiple heights to more accurately derive ERforest.
Entrainment significantly influences atmospheric composition within the boundary layer and is a well-researched phenomenon. However, this study stands out as the first, to my knowledge, that specifically addresses the impact of entrainment on O2 and CO2 exchanges. This represents a notable contribution to the field. This study suggests careful selection of O2 and CO2 measurements at single heights is required to correctly represent the biological exchange between O2 and CO2 in forest setting. This consideration is equally important in urban and other backgrounds, particularly for studies focusing on exchange ratios over smaller spatio-temporal scales. Given its importance and novelty, I recommend the acceptance of this study after the following issues are addressed.
Major comments:
1. Is it possible for the effects of advection to be counterbalanced by those of entrainment? The observed discrepancies between ERatmos and ERforest might stem from both entrainment and advection processes (Equation 8). In Appendix A1, the authors analyze the influence of the entrainment coefficient (β) on ERatmos signals and discuss instances where ERatmos aligns with ERforest. However, the role of advection remains unclear. Can we rely on measurements taken at a single height when advection's impact is potentially neutralized by entrainment? This interaction might explain why ERatmos and ERforest yield similar results.
2. Does entrainment exert a more pronounced impact during typical days? This modelling study is generally based on the mixed layer theory. In studies by Ishidoya et al. (2013, 2015), their analysis did not specifically distinguish between measurements on ‘typical days’ and ‘non-typical days’, and derive similar ERatmos and ERforest values. After reading this work, I am fully convinced the impact of entrainment should be considered on ‘typical day’. However, it remains uncertain how this applies to specific instances, such as heavily polluted urban days or during extraordinary events like COVID-19 lockdowns, where mixed layer theory may not always hold. It would be beneficial for readers to understand the frequency and significance of entrainment during these atypical periods. When assessing single-height measurements on non-typical days, can we still depend on ERatmos for accurate representation? While modeling these atypical days using the CLASS model might be challenging, I suggest the authors discuss these considerations, possibly in Section 5.2, to provide a more comprehensive perspective.