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Wintertime process study of the North Brazil Current rings reveals the region as a larger sink for CO2 than expected
Jacqueline Boutin
Gilles Reverdin
Nathalie Lefèvre
Peter Landschützer
Sabrina Speich
Johannes Karstensen
Matthieu Labaste
Christophe Noisel
Markus Ritschel
Tobias Steinhoff
Rik Wanninkhof
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RC1: 'Comment on bg-2021-269', Anonymous Referee #3, 28 Mar 2022
Overview
The authors conduct a case study on the air–sea flux in the equatorial Atlantic. They collected pCO2 measurements from several cruises in the under sampled December-February period. They characterise the different water masses they sampled. They develop a relationship to calculate regional pCO2 fields which they use to calculate the regional flux. They identify the flux as being an order of magnitude greater than the Landschützer estimate. They identify the key processes contributing to this flux. This was a really nice paper to read and I found the results interesting. I would suggest publishing this paper following minor revisions.
Major comments
Throughout – At the moment many of your figures are too small. All axis ticks and axis labels need to be much bigger. There are a lot of different colour schemes throughout the figures, e.g. Figure 1 has three different colour schemes. Can they be standardised? Otherwise it is less clear when the colours refer to the regions in figures 4 and 5.
Title – It would also be nice for the title to reflect the main finding of the paper. At the moment you don’t say what the main result was. For example something along the lines of - pCO2 measurements made in the North Brazil Current rings in February 2020 reveals the region as a larger sink for CO2 then predicted by pCO2 climatologies”. I am not suggesting using this title but hopefully it points you in the right direction.
Abstract – The abstract needs a bit of work. You have identified the key processes but it isn’t clear when and where they are important. This information is in the text but the abstract needs to stand up on its own. You also need 1 sentence at the beginning saying the wider context of the problem, 1 sentence explaining what these eddies are/ how they form and 1 sentence saying how they might impact the flux. Or something along those lines. I would advise using the nature abstract template as a guide on how to improve this section. https://unl.libguides.com/c.php?g=51569&p=2633458
Introduction – A well written introduction. The thing I feel is really missing here is a full size schematic of the region. You need to label all the currents (with arrows) and locations you mention in the introduction. Unless the reader is extremely familiar with the region they will not be able to visualise anything. This becomes important later when you start discussing the cruise track. On a read through it would be great for you to at least label the following North Equatorial Counter Current, NBC retroflection region, the Caribbean , Lesser Antilles, Amazon River plume, Trade wind region, Eddy Boulevard. Currently figure 1 is not that helpful. You show these fields but without a schematic of the circulation/currents it isn’t particularly useful. Please add a locations/ currents map as a large subplot to figure 1 at least.
Methods – You need to provide a date for the data, at the moment you state January and February. Either as another subplot by day of year or state them in the text and figure cation. As it stands we don’t know how far apart the measurements were made from each other, they could be 1 week or 8 weeks. Figure 2a - c are very much results, so move them there. Perhaps have a cruise track by DOY here instead. Then move Figs 2a-2c to the results. Section 2.2 is nicely written. I feel there is some missing detail here on justifying the choice of datasets though, you need to rationalise why you have used SMAP over ESA CCI SSS for example. In section 2.3.2 you verge into results and begin to discuss them. Be careful of doing this. See lines 214 to 226. I realise you use fig 3 to get the relationship you use to generate your maps but consider moving it to the results.
Results – If you talk about Figure 1 here bring it down to results. Figure 4 and 5 are really great. It would be nice if you had a table describing the criteria for each of the 6 water masses. This will make it easier to quickly reference backwards and forwards. Please number and or define the water masses as you introduce them. It isn’t clear whether lines 290 to 203 describe some of these water masses. Section 3.3,3.4,3.5,3.6 are nicely done. Figure 10 is also really nice, maybe you can discuss this further.
Discussion – Section 4.1 seems out of place. Combine with section 3.2 at the start of the results where you define the water masses. In lines 477 and 478 you say that the inter annual signal can’t explain the entirety of the differences, this is a really important point but you don’t back this up with hard evidence. Did you try to do an extrapolation for any other years? The appendix figure and table are proof of the method working and I feel justify their place in the main manuscript. The appendix figure is not clear, there doesn’t appear to be anything superimposed on it? What is missing is a 10 year timeseries of the winter pCO2 fields using your relationship, it would be nice to visualise the interannual flux variability as a bar chart (maybe split by your 6 regions).
Minor comments
- Line 1 - The title should read as “The” Impact of North Brazil Current rings on air-sea CO2 flux variability in winter 2020.
- Line 13 – this should just be pass
- Line 19 – factor of 10 might be changed . You could also say underestimated by 1 order of magnitude. You also need to be clear this is WRT to L20 climatology.
- Line 22 – is this 20% of the -1.7Tg month? May say the size as well as the percentage?
- Line 23 - The spatial distribution of
- Line 23 – ‘On the other hand’ is not really the right term here. You mean ‘in contrast’. Where is the detrital material acting as a CO2 source?
- Line 24 – It is not clear why 12 degrees north is an important threshold from the abstract
- Line 30 –“retroflects” is a term I’ve never heard before. Be aware that some readers even with a strong oceanography background may not be familiar with this. I strongly recommend explaining it here or using another description like “ doubles back on its self”
- Line 35 – Is the NBC retroflection region where the rings pinch off or where they travel across?
- Line 37 – For something extensively studied is there not more recent literature? A 2002 reference predates satellite salinity.
- Line 52 – please edit this, the way it is written makes it sound like the ocean is causing ocean acidification.
- Line 54 – remove “continuously”. It is technically not correct as there is a seasonal signal each year that reduces atmosphere global pCO2.
- Line 71 – edit needed. “The minimum plume extend occurs ”. Please be careful when referring to seasons near the equator, it may be better to do month X–month Y.
- Line 109 – why is this separate paragraph. You can merge it with the paragraph before.
- Line 127 – Should this not reference Takahashi 1993?
- Line 128- Can you state the style so the reader doesn’t have to look it up e.g. showerhead, membrane, bubble?
- Line 133/134 – You need to describe the methods here. At least one reference to another paper is required.
- Line 141 – 142 – Can you provide a reference here please
- Line 145 - replace “inferior” with “less than” . Also was this comparison at the same time? Hours apart days?
- Line 154 – How did you check this? Please add the details here or the supplement
- Line 170 – convention to not use PSU or pss. Please check throughout for this
- Line 243 – Would be really nice for you to give the relationship here. Other researchers may want to use it.
- Line 258 – it is hard to visualise this grid without drawing it on a map
- Line 264- Comparisons with the Landschützer product would be best saved for the discussion.
- Lines 265 -268 and 274-275– This is introductory material. Why is it in results?
- Line 302 – Can you change your dates to mmm-dd. Some American readers are confused by dd/mm.
- Line 507 – Are there really only 4 cruises over this time period?
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-2021-269-RC1 - AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Léa Olivier, 27 Apr 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on bg-2021-269', Peter Land, 07 Apr 2022
This is a thorough and well-presented analysis of a multi-ship campaign measuring waters north of Brazil containing two large eddies (rings), combined with satellite data (including a novel SSS product) to estimate the February air-sea CO2 flux in the region and the contributions due to the rings and other water masses. It describes a method for estimating flux that could be extended to other years, and validates this using previous cruise data with good agreement. I consider the work novel and important and the argument convincing, and I recommend publication. I have two main issues plus detailed comments.
SST is a fundamental component of your method, albeit with relatively low variability across the region, and is often referred to in the text, but we only ever see SST in TS plots and cruise tracks. I would like at least a February 2020 SST composite so readers can see how features described in the text manifest spatially in SST. You could go further and expand other figures to include maps of SST alongside SSS and chla. Speaking of maps, I second Referee #3’s request for a geographically-labelled map, including Bermuda, Trinidad & Tobago and any other geographical features mentioned in the text.
In Section 4.3 and Appendix A, you appear to get to a point where you can address a crucial question, which is whether 2020 was a flux outlier, but you don’t present any results! I couldn’t understand why that was, the paper would be much better with this information. Are you saving it for another paper? I wouldn’t blame you, but then Appendix A seems largely redundant as well as unfair on your expectant readers! You successfully validate in other years with cruise data but you don’t go on to process all years since 2010 and present summary statistics on at least the headline regional flux figure.
l18-9 This could use more neutral language, eg ‘ a factor of 10 greater than previously estimated’
l22 causes
1l39 Different families of rings exist… (a little more explanation of the families would be nice here for ignorant folks like me, e.g. are they all anticyclonic? I would have thought so, but the next phrase kind of suggests a secret world of cyclonic eddies undetectable by altimetry - maybe I’m letting my imagination get the better of me!)
l58 CO2-undersaturated
l72-3 The climatology of difference…
l78 …due to onshore winds as it travels… (as it stands it sounds like winds ambiguously perpendicular to the coast are travelling NW!)
l83 Later you only refer to the western one as a filament and to the eastern one as a plume - be consistent please
l124 Temperature and salinity…
l133-4 At what depth? If similar to the intake, one thing these might be used for is to shed further light on the fCO2 comparison (or muddy the waters!) by calculating fCO2.
l169 Was the extra data only used to fill gaps, or were all data from the three passes averaged? If the latter, for consistency I’d be tempted to treat all days the same, and either use 6AM the next day all the time or not at all. Could the two missing days be recovered by using 6PM from the previous day? If so, again I’d be tempted to do the same throughout.
l203-4 Brief comparison stats could be included here, eg bias and RMSE.
l220-1 This sentence doesn’t make sense - my guess as to your meaning would be something like ‘Chl-a is hard to distinguish from terrigenous detrital material using ocean colour where both are present as they have similar spectral effects’ or similar. Phytoplankton produce their own detritus, the effect of which is included in satellite chl-a algorithms.
l235 …prevents oscillations…
l237 …is ~4 uatm (or is 4 uatm if the ‘of’ was just a typo)
l248 …over… It might be interesting to check the sensitivity to these extrapolations by calculating the mean fCO2 and/or flux without the extra points, equivalent to setting pixels outside the in situ range to the mean so they don’t affect the result.
l255 Rather vague and irreproducible with different data as it stands. Did you have a threshold of coverage? Given that in the end you average over all days, why do you not average all valid fCO2 values in a given pixel, regardless of coverage? If there’s a specific reason (e.g. strong, consistent temporal gradients of gap location, which could bias the results), please state it clearly along with your exclusion criterion. Alternatively, how about doing it both ways, the difference suggesting a lower limit to uncertainty?
l284 I agree with Referee #3. This amounts to a 3D classification of your data, and there are many ways to achieve this. How did you do it? Manually? How did you arrive at 6 classes? What are the thresholds? Some are scattered through the text, but not in sufficient detail for me to be able to uniquely assign a (S,T,C) triplet to a class (or none). A simple table or a decision tree would suffice to make them reproducible. Do you have any interpretation at all of the grey data, which constitute a large proportion of the warmer waters?
l297 You should refer to this as simply ‘NBC’ rather than surface-intensified. It took me awhile to work out that this wasn’t ‘modified NBC’ with a different name. Or rephrase along the lines of ’The NBC, intensified at the surface,…’
l334 was it likely to be affected by topography in this area?
l345 …processes are…
l355 SSS<34.5 appears to be the only necessary criterion in Fig 4b - is the chla limit a threshold or an observation?
l366-7 please quote the background silicate for comparison
l371 …and modifies…
l380 Are you confident it’s both? I don’t think you have any independent measurements. If not, I suggest ‘and/or’.
l386 …A2’s westward…
l387 from Fig 4b it looks like SST goes down to about 26.8C. Which of these are thresholds and which observations?
l399 …CO2 flux maps… Are these calculated from mean dfCO2 and everything else daily?
l400 Oddly vague - what is the resolution?
l407 (and abstract) personally, I consider /month to be a mangled unit, especially since your data comprise a subset of February! Why not quote /day, valid over the day range used for the calculation?
l411 Not Feb but Feb 2-19
l420 ditto
l424 The two NBC…positive air-sea CO2 flux average in early to mid-February.
l427-8 …over 18 days
l430 …on average in early to mid-February…
l441 …in early to mid-February
l456-7 …associated with…
l459 Is this how you did it? I thought it was T, S and C thresholds!
l464-8 It would be easy to calculate overlaps between your water masses and the relevant Longhurst provinces, e.g. 90% of the pixels we classify as NASW are in the NATR province.
l471 …presents…of air-sea CO2…
l472 …and in February 2020 we estimate the 5-16N, 59-50W domain to be a…
l473 …large-scale…
l475 …considerably smaller in…
l476-8 can you quantify this?
l481 …and is…
l491 …current…
l496 …due both…
l551 …filaments…
l554 …plume, water…
l558 …regimes…
l560 …in early to mid-February…
l561 You quote 10 times smaller earlier, which is it?
l561 …contributes most… or …is responsible for…
l564 …contributes almost… or …is responsible for almost…
l574 …than those of temperature and…
l588 …, sampled daily on a 25 km x 25 km grid,…Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-2021-269-RC2 - AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Léa Olivier, 27 Apr 2022