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Mixed layer depth dominates over upwelling in regulating the seasonality of ecosystem functioning in the Peruvian upwelling system
Ivy Frenger
A. E. Friederike Prowe
Yonss Saranga José
Andreas Oschlies
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RC1: 'Comment on bg-2021-113', Anonymous Referee #1, 07 Jun 2021
Review of “Mixed layer depth dominates over upwelling in regulating the seasonality of ecosystem functioning in the Peruvian Upwelling System” by Xue et al.
This paper investigates the seasonal cycle of nearshore phytoplankton in the Peru Upwelling System (PUS), one of the richest upwelling systems in terms of fish catch. The PUS is particular as the surface chlorophyll seasonal cycle is out of phase with the wind-driven upwelling intensity, suggesting that vertical mixing may generate dilution and light-limitation. The paper is structured in two parts: first, the surface chlorophyll, nutrients, mixed layer and upwelling rates of the PUS are compared to those of three other EBUS (California, Canary, Benguela) using observations. Second, a regional coupled physical-biogeochemical model (CROCO-BioEBUS) is set up for the PUS and used to study the limiting factors of phytoplankton growth and to perform a phytoplankton budget in the mixed layer.
Besides the nicely presented figures and the english that needs to be thoroughly corrected, I was disappointed by the results presented in the paper. First, the authors do not really do justice to a previous paper (Echevin et al., 2008, hereafter EC08) that investigated exactly the same questions using a quite similar modelling approach. The latter is barely cited in the introduction and discussion, even though these authors conducted a comprehensive investigation of the factors driving the seasonal cycle of chlorophyll. As a co-author of this latter work, I was curious to find out whether some new questions or new approaches regarding this paradox were being investigated. Unfortunately, the material presented in this work provides very little new information with respect to the findings of EC08. The authors could have used their model to perform innovative sensitivity experiments (for example EC08 performed several sensitivity experiments to illustrate the impact of iron limitation, temperature, insolation on the seasonal cycle of chlorophyll) but here only one model experiment is analyzed. They claim that they elaborate on the propagation of the seasonal cycle of surface chlorophyll onto higher trophic levels, but very few results are presented in the manuscript. The second part of the paper, which compares different EBUS systems, is not particularly innovative in comparison to previous findings of Messié and Chavez (2005,2015). It seems that the authors were inspired by these previous works but did not manage to expand on the scientific questions. For this reason, I think that the paper in its present state is not worthy of publication in Biogeosciences Discussions.
Detailed comments:
Abstract:
L7: " Intense upwelling coincides with deep mixed layers”: is this really unique? Are the layers deep?
L11: In contrast to previous studies, reduced phytoplankton growth due to enhanced upwelling of cold waters and lateral advection are second-order drivers of low surface chlorophyll concentrations”: not sure what previous studies were asserting.
L15: what about the role of nutrient enrichment? It could be reduced under climate change. See Chevin et al. (2020).
Introduction
L33-35: The seasonal paradox is also mentioned by EC08. At citing the latter, it would be fair to mention that they used a regional coupled physical-bgc model as in the present study. You should also mention Thomas et al. (2001) and Chavez et al (2005) who noted the seasonal paradox.
L38: Actually EC08 showed that the seasonal cycle of insolation did not play a major role in their model set-up, whereas Guillen and Calienes (1981) assumed it played a role.
L39: I disagree here: this has been at least partly assessed in EC08. Rephrase and explain precisely which hypotheses have not been assessed in the latter and which new ones will be assessed in the present work. Overall, a more accurate review of the findings of EC08 to explain the out-of -phase seasonal cycle of chlorophyll is needed in the introduction.
L41: “the unique mechanism”: not clear what this unique mechanism is.
L43: use present tense.
Data and methods
L50: why do you cite ROMS here? Explain that CROCO is the next generation ROMS-AGRIF model.
L54: “which is used in this study”: suppress this part of the sentence. Both grids are used in the study but only the results from the fine resolution one are analyzed.
L54: do you use bulk forcing?
L61: I think the authors should explain why these variables are important for the simulation of chlorophyll. Figure 1 of José et al shows that the PCC is too strong in the model at 12°S, not too weak!
L66: I do not think it can be said that N is a species. I think the authors could have done a better job at proofreading the english in the submitted paper.
L72: Table A1 is useful. Please indicate values in the table instead of “see ref.”
L73: Good to know that the model has been adjusted to fit zooplankton biomass, which to my knowledge, has not been done before: which figure and section is it?
Figure C1: I think showing N at ~100 m is more relevant than at 1000m, as it would be in the depth range of upwelled waters. Besides, N at 1000m is not at quasi equilibrium after 25 years, it is still drifting quite a lot.
L78-79: “deep spin-up”: rephrase.
L79: “where shows..”: rephrase.
L81: I am not sure the title of the subsection is adequate. I suggest “Model diagnostics”.
L82: “analyze with...”: another typo. There are too many of them, the language really needs to be corrected, I am sure the authors can do a better job at it or get some help from a native speaker.
L90: add an equation for J and the limitation terms L(x).
L95: I do not understand equation (3). What is Lmld and how is it related to J? Does it play a role in the model equations? Please clarify.
L96: Cmld is the concentration or the concentration change? If it is the concetration change, what is ΔCmld? I am lost here.
L98: What is the chain rule?
Figure B3: This is an interesting figure: could you indicate the number of data per 1°x1° grid point? How does it compare to the Boyer Montegut climatology (can be downloaded here: http://www.ifremer.fr/cerweb/deboyer/mld/home.php). It would be nice to add an error bar indicating the model’s MLD internal variability.
Figure 1c: Indicate the meaning of labels B-H in the legend. I believe you should suppress label A, which is misleading, as the model is not a reference. I guess all points would be superposed with A if the model was in perfect agreement with the data. Why do you use WOA and not CARS here?
Figure 1d: I am surprised the model chlorophyll is low: is this really the best fit after parameter tuning?
Could you add an “error” bar to represent the model internal variability of Chl? Also, I think that Pennington’s plot was not exactly the same coastal area as shown in Fig.1a.
L137: “suggested” is a bit weak here. See my previous comment about the introduction.
L138: “the weaker increase...”: you need a reference here.
L141: Are the ARGO MLD estimates reliable off Peru? This should be addressed somewhere and ARGO data should be described in the Data and Methods section.
L142: I think there are other hypothesis supporting the high chlorophyll values in the Canary system. This section comparing the different systems is too long and does not focus enough on the main topic of the paper.
L145-146: I do not agree with the conclusion here: as SST is also strongly correlated with insolation, you can not conclude that the seasonal cycle of temperature drives the phytoplankton growth. For your information, EC08 showed that the temperature effect was negligible in their model set-up (see end of section 3.3).
Figure 2: the regions where data is averaged in a coastal band in the four systems should be indicated in the supplementary.
L150: The reason for this is well known: the along-shore wind forcing is enhanced during winter, increasing upwelling and vertical mixing, and the lower winter insolation decreases surface stratification and increases the MLD.
L181: “DV contributes...”: in which figure is this shown?
L206: “advection is picking up”: I can not see that, advection seems negligible with respect to mixing (Fig.4d).
L208-209: “the decreasing rate...”: I do not understand this sentence
L202-2011: This paragraph is very difficult to follow and lacks precise references to the figures in the core of the text.
L222: How do you obtain this 60% decrease based on Eq.3?
L229: The weak role of temperature is in agreement with EC08.
Discussion
L258-261: I suggest a closer examination of EC08 findings and expand the comparison with their modelling work, which is very similar to what is presented here. In particular, they relaxed iron limitation in their model and found an Chl increase of 20-80% (depending on the latitude) during winter and spring, which corroborates the impact of iron limitation on the seasonal cycle found by Messié and Chavez (2015).
L272: the sentence seems incomplete.
L274: “and in deep ...”: rephrase
L275: “charge”
L276: I am not convinced by this hypothesis: the residence time of the upwelled water in the mixed layer near the coast is probably quite short as upwelled waters are rapidly transported offshore by Ekman currents. Thus I do not believe in such preconditioning. Unless you can you prove it using the model.
L295: “higher” with respect to what? Clarify.
L314: is this a result of the study? It has not been described. I think elaborating on the seasonal cycle of export and zooplankton could have been interesting.
L320-332: This discussion is very speculative and vague. I do not find it very useful.
L340: Echevin et al. (2020) also investigated the mixed layer evolution under climate change (Figure 7), not only changes in upwelling. I encourage the authors to read the papers they cite more carefully.
L347: Surface chl only slightly increases in the different simulations (2%-17%, Fig.12a).
L355: The propagation of the seasonal variability up the foodweb is not documented in the results sections and only mentionned in the discussion: it is not worth mentioning in the conclusion.
L356: what are the remaining open questions about the interactions behing the mixed layer and upwelling dynamics? Be more specific.
References:
Chavez, F.P., 1995. A comparison of ship and satellite chlorophyll from California and Peru. Journal of Geophysical Research 100 (C12), 24855–24862.
Thomas, A.C., Carr, M.E., Strub, P.T., 2001. Chlorophyll variability in eastern boundary currents. Geophysical Research Letters 28 (18), 3421–3424.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-2021-113-RC1 -
AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Tianfei Xue, 15 Jun 2021
Dear reviewer,
We would like to thank you for your time and constructive comments, even though you do not recommend the manuscript for publication in its present state. Your comments will help us to improve the manuscript. They made us realize that we have to emphasize more clearly, and expand on the new aspects our manuscript adds to previous studies. Below, we add our responses to your general comments (in italics). A detailed point-by-point response to your detailed comments will follow at a later point.
C: The authors do not really do justice to a previous paper (Echevin et al., 2008, hereafter EC08) that investigated exactly the same questions using a quite similar modelling approach. The latter is barely cited in the introduction and discussion, even though these authors conducted a comprehensive investigation of the factors driving the seasonal cycle of chlorophyll.
R: We agree that we did not present the EC08 study as detailed as it deserves from the beginning, given that it is the main reference with respect to the controlling factors of the seasonal paradox that we analyse. It emphasizes the importance of the mixed layer depth in the seasonality of chlorophyll in the Humboldt Upwelling System. We will add a summary of what has been presented in EC08 in the introduction and refer to it more extensively in the discussion section.
C: The material presented in this work provides very little new information with respect to the findings of EC08. The authors could have used their model to perform innovative sensitivity experiments (for example EC08 performed several sensitivity experiments to illustrate the impact of iron limitation, temperature, insolation on the seasonal cycle of chlorophyll) but here only one model experiment is analyzed.
R: As noted above, we agree that we have not been clear about what our manuscript adds beyond EC08. Please find our two arguments below, namely (i) that we tested the robustness of EC08 with a different model, and (ii) that we expanded on their analysis and other existing studies by adding results on the ecosystem functioning.
Indeed, our results of what drives the surface concentrations of chlorophyll in the HUS corroborates the findings by EC08. Nevertheless, we find it of fundamental value to report that previous findings are robust against using a different model, in this case, BioEBUS instead of PISCES (used in EC08). BioEBUS model used in this study was developed explicitly for applications to EBUS and oxygen minimum zones [2]. In addition, we calibrated zooplankton in the BioEBUS model against observational estimates (something that is often omitted, despite the central role of zooplankton parameterizations on plankton dynamics [1, 3], as highlighted also by the reviewer in his/her comment to L73 of our manuscript). We aimed to assess if ”biological” drivers, in particular grazing, play a role in the seasonality of chlorophyll, based on an analysis of the budget of phytoplankton biomass that allows for a quantification of the driving processes in the model. However, our budget analysis revealed that ”biological” drivers were negligible compared to the biochemical argumentation already put forward by EC08. We will report on affirmative and new results in more detail in the revised manuscript.
In addition, as suggested by the reviewer (comment regarding the manuscript L314), we will include the evaluation of zooplankton and add results regarding the ecosystem functioning that we presently only briefly touched upon in the discussion. This will add one panel (see Figure 1 in supplement) to Figure 3 (in the manuscript), with total particulate organic matter showing a depth-time pattern similar to that of phytoplankton, and seasonality of export efficiency that closely follows the MLD. We will also add more details to the results and discussion section of how the seasonal paradox impacts ecosystem functioning, including phyto- and zooplankton composition, export and export efficiency since most of the sinking matter originates from the faecal material of mesozooplankton.
C: They claim that they elaborate on the propagation of the seasonal cycle of surface chlorophyll onto higher trophic levels, but very few results are presented in the manuscript.
R: Thank you for pointing this out. Please see also our response to the previous comment. We analyzed the seasonal cycles of zooplankton and export of organic matter but missed to appropriately include these results in the manuscript. We now realize that this is a shortcoming and would be happy to add detail on the ecosystem functioning in the results and discussion sections of the revised version.
C: The second part of the paper, which compares different EBUS, is not particularly innovative in comparison to previous findings of Messi ́e and Chavez (2005,2015). It seems that the authors were inspired by these previous works but did not manage to expand on the scientific questions.
R: Our motivation to compare different EBUS was to reveal how they differ in their relationship of mixed layer depths and upwelling, and how these distinct relationships possibly affect chlorophyll seasonality. While, to our understanding, such a perspective has not been taken previously, we agree that we discussed the correlations of the various variables across the EBUS too broadly without clearly pointing out existing knowledge and which novel aspects our perspective adds. We will shorten and streamline this section accordingly.
C: English that needs to be thoroughly corrected.
R: We apologize for the typos and incorrect grammar. We will pay thorough attention to improve the language in the revised manuscript.
References
[1] Thomas R. Anderson, Wendy C. Gentleman, and Bablu Sinha. Influence of grazing formulations on the emergent properties of a complex ecosystem model in a global ocean general circulation model. 87(1-4):201–213, 2010.
[2] Elodie Gutknecht, Isabelle Dadou, B Le Vu, Gildas Cambon, Joel Sudre, V ́eronique Gar ̧con, Eric Machu, Tim Rixen, Annette Kock, Anita Flohr, et al. Coupled physical/biogeochemical modeling including o2-dependent processes in the eastern boundary upwelling systems: application in the benguela.Biogeosciences, 10(6):3559–3591, 2013.[3] A E F Prowe, M Pahlow, S Dutkiewicz, M Follows, and A Oschlies. Top-down control of marine phytoplankton diversity in a global ecosystem model.101:1–13, 2012.
[3] A E F Prowe, M Pahlow, S Dutkiewicz, M Follows, and A Oschlies. Top-down control of marine phytoplankton diversity in a global ecosystem model.101:1–13, 2012.
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AC3: 'Reply on RC1-2', Tianfei Xue, 16 Aug 2021
Dear reviewer,
We would like to thank you again for your constructive comments. According to your comments, we will elaborate on existing studies and expand on the new aspects of our study, in particular with regard to zooplankton and ecosystem functioning. Your comments will help us set apart our manuscript more clearly from previous studies. A detailed point-by-point response to your detailed comments is listed below:
Abstract:
L7: ”Intense upwelling coincides with deep mixed layers”: is this really unique? Are the layers deep?
R: We find that the pattern of intense upwelling coinciding with deep mixed layers in the seasonal cycle is unique to the HUS. As shown in fig. 2e of the manuscript, the Humboldt system is the only of the four major EBUS that reveals a positive temporal correlation between MLD and upwelling intensity. We will add a clarifying sentence to the manuscript.
L11: In contrast to previous studies, reduced phytoplankton growth due to enhanced upwelling of cold waters and lateral advection are second-order drivers of low surface chlorophyll concentrations”: not sure what previous studies were asserting.
R: We will rephrase this section and be more precise. We find that lateral advection plays a role for phytoplankton biomass (and hence in the ’seasonal paradox’). This finding confirms previous studies by Messie and Chavez (2015), Lachkar and Gruber (2011) that address the importance of lateral advection for phytoplankton biomass build-up in Peru and other EBUS because of the inverse relationship of advection and water residence time. With respect to the role of temperature limitation due to cold surface waters in winter, Echevin et al. (2008) stated based on a sensitivity study that it was negligible in the Peruvian system and did not include the associated analyses (figure) on temperature limitation in their results. We here add our model results in terms of temperature limitation (temperature growth factor), as we do find an effect, even though it is of second order. We will reword and replace the above sentence with the following text (L11-13):
”The effect of advection on the build-up of phytoplankton biomass, though of second-order, is consistent with previous findings for the Peruvian system and other EBUS, with enhanced offshore export opposing the coastal build-up of biomass. In addition, we find that upwelling brings up relatively colder water and slightly slows down the build-up of phytoplankton biomass.”
L15: what about the role of nutrient enrichment? It could be reduced under climate change. See Echevin et al. (2020).
R: We agree that nutrients might be reduced under climate change due to increasing stratification and potentially weakening upwelling. As discussed in our manuscript (L156-158 and L341-343), our results suggest that the system in its present state is not nutrient-limited. Although surface DIN concentration shows a clear seasonal cycle, it is not the limiting factor of phytoplankton growth, even when concentrations are lowest in summer. Unless future nutrient concentrations drop substantially below 'summer levels', we expect that other limiting processes (dilution, light condition) would dominate the impact of reduced nutrients. Therefore, a dominant role of reduced nutrient supply in case of a weakening of upwelling seems less likely than other effects of increasing stratification. We will expand on the role of a potentially reduced nutrient supply in the climate change section.
Introduction:
L33-35: The seasonal paradox is also mentioned by EC08. At citing the latter, it would be fair to mention that they used a regional coupled physical-bgc model as in the present study. You should also mention Thomas et al. (2001) and Chavez et al (2005) who noted the seasonal paradox.
R: We agree that we did not present the EC08 study in the detail it deserves. We will give a more detailed description of Echevin et al. (2008) and also include Thomas et al. (2001) and Chavez (1995) in the introduction.
L38: Actually EC08 showed that the seasonal cycle of insolation did not play a major role in their model set-up, whereas Guillen and Calienes (1981) assumed it played a role.
R: We will rephrase and explain this part more clearly as follows (L38): ”Guillen and Calienes (1981) suggest that lower surface radiation in winter might amplify light limitation and further limit the phytoplankton growth while insolation is found not to play a major role in Echevin et al. (2008).”
L39: I disagree here: this has been at least partly assessed in EC08. Rephrase and explain precisely which hypotheses have not been assessed in the latter and which new ones will be assessed in the present work. Overall, a more accurate review of the findings of EC08 to explain the out-of-phase seasonal cycle of chlorophyll is needed in the introduction.
R: As mentioned above, we will recap the study of EC08 in more detail and emphasise more clearly the difference between our study to EC08.
L41: “the unique mechanism”: not clear what this unique mechanism is.
R: The unique mechanism refers to the first question ("what is the uniqueness of PUS compared to other EBUS that leads to the seasonal paradox?"). And here it represents "the deep MLD coinciding with strong upwelling intensity". We will modify the sentence to (L42-43):
"(2) What are the mechanisms that limit phytoplankton from growing in a situation of ample supply of nutrients due to strong upwelling; and (3) How will these mechanisms further affect ecosystem functioning."
Data and methods:
L50: why do you cite ROMS here? Explain that CROCO is the next generation ROMS-AGRIF model.
R: Thanks for pointing out that we missed to mention the link of ROMS and CROCO. The citation here is according to what is suggested on the CROCO website (see https://www.croco-ocean.org/how-to-cite/). We will later add 'CROCO is the next generation of the ROMS AGRIF model' in the manuscript.
L54: do you use bulk forcing
R: No, we did not use bulk forcing but a forcing file (croco-frc) created with the croco-tools (a collection of Matlab scripts that are provided on the CROCO website for pre- and postprocessing purposes, see https://www.croco-ocean.org/download/croco-project/) that contains the variables wind stress (zonal and meridional components), surface net heat flux, surface freshwater flux (E-P), solar shortwave radiation, SST, SSS etc.
L61: I think the authors should explain why these variables are important for the simulation of chlorophyll. Fig. 1 of José et al shows that the PCC is too strong in the model at 12S, not too weak!
R: Yes, the Peru coastal current (PCC) is too strong in the model at 12S and south of 12S in José et al. fig. 1. But north of about 12S (that is in most of our focus region), the PCC is underestimated by the model compared to observations. Overall, José et al. conclude in their model evaluation section that the model underestimates the Equator–Peru coastal current and the Peru–Chile undercurrent.
L66: I do not think it can be said that N is a species. I think the authors could have done a better job at proofreading the english in the submitted paper.
R: The expression "N species" refers to different forms of nitrogen in the water and is commonly used by chemists. Take, for example, the title of Michalski et al. (2006): 'Determination of Nitrogen Species (Nitrate, Nitrite and Ammonia Ions) in Environmental Samples by Ion Chromatography'. To simplify the reference to nitrate, nitrite and ammonium we will stick to summarise them as N species.
L72: Table A1 is useful. Please indicate values in the table instead of “see ref.”
R: The parameters for which values are given as 'see refs' are regarding zooplankton diet preference. The references we cite are biological papers based on observations. The parameter values in the model are general estimates that orient themselves on the observations of stomach contents of individual taxa given in the references. As model parameters need to integrate over different taxa and their traits and feeding strategies, their values do not directly correspond to observed values. Therefore, we do not list specific diet preference values for the observations to avoid misleading the readers.
L73: Good to know that the model has been adjusted to fit zooplankton biomass, which to my knowledge, has not been done before: which figure and section is it?
R: Indeed, we had not included the zooplankton evaluation in the manuscript as it was not fundamental to the main points of the manuscript. We will include this part of the model calibration in the appendix while including additional results regarding ecosystem functioning (see the response to the comment below).
Figure C1: I think showing N at 100 m is more relevant than at 1000m, as it would be in the depth range of upwelled waters. Besides, N at 1000m is not at quasi-equilibrium after 25 years, it is still drifting quite a lot.
R: Thank you for the advice. We will replace the N at 1000 m with N at 100 m (fig. R1.1). N at 100 m is equilibrated well before the analyses period of the last five years.
L82: “analyze with...”: another typo. There are too many of them, the language really needs to be corrected, I am sure the authors can do a better job at it or get some help from a native speaker.
R: We apologise for the typos. We will pay thorough attention to improve the language in the revised manuscript.
L90: add an equation for J and the limitation terms L(x).
R: Thank you for pointing this out. We will update equ. 2 in the manuscript to equ. R1.1. Primary production (PP) is related to phytoplankton biomass (C), phytoplankton maximal growth rate (Jmax, constant) and growth factors due to light, temperature and nitrogen conditions (L(PAR), L(T), L(N)).
L95: I do not understand equation (3). What is Lmld and how is it related to J? Does it play a role in the model equations? Please clarify.
R: Lmld represents the average growth factor phytoplankton experiences within the MLD. The average phytoplankton growth rate within the MLD, Jmld can then be calculated as equ. R1.2, where Jmax is the constant maximum growth rate (see previous response). We will include the explanation in the revised text.
L96: Cmld is the concentration or the concentration change? If it is the concentration change, what is ΔCmld? I am lost here.
R: Cmld refers to the average phytoplankton biomass concentration in the mixed layer. ΔCmld refers to the change of the concentration over time. We will explain the equation more clearly in the revised manuscript.
L98: What is the chain rule?
R: We refer here to the mathematical expression "chain rule", the formula to compute the derivative of a composite function (equ. R1.3). We will clarify this in the revised manuscript.
Figure B3: This is an interesting figure: could you indicate the number of data per 1x1 grid point? How does it compare to the Boyer Montegut climatology (can be downloaded here: http://www.ifremer.fr/cerweb/deboyer/mld/home.php). It would be nice to add an error bar indicating the model’s MLD internal variability.
R: Thank you for pointing us to the additional data set. Please see fig. R1.2 for the number of Argo float profiles and a comparison of the seasonality of MLD of the different data sets: the de Boyer Montegut climatology (de Boyer Montegut et al., 2004) exhibits the shallowest MLD. The internal variability of the model MLD encompasses both the Argo estimate and the de Boyer Montegut climatology.
Figure 1d: I am surprised the model chlorophyll is low: is this really the best fit after parameter tuning? Could you add an “error” bar to represent the model internal variability of Chl? Also, I think that Pennington’s plot was not exactly the same coastal area as shown in Fig.1a.
R: One reason for the simulated Chl being relatively low is that we used the Chl:N ratio from the model's croco-tool (the Matlab toolbox as mentioned above) to convert from nitrogen to chlorophyll (Chl:N=0.795). If we use the Chl:N ratio of Gutknecht et al. (2013) (Chl:N=1.59), the simulated Chl would double its value. The Chl:C and C:N ratios are both very variable in nature and it is not possible to resolve this variability with a fixed-stoichiometry model as used here. Therefore, we tuned the model chlorophyll so that the observed chlorophyll values fall between the simulated chlorophyll values using the different Chl:N ratios. We will add the error bars in fig. R1.3. And thank you for clarifying that in Pennington et al. (2006) primary the data is taken for a 250 km band off the coast. We will mention this in the manuscript.
Results
L137: “suggested” is a bit weak here. See my previous comment about the introduction.
R: We will emphasise the findings by EC08 more strongly in the revised manuscript.
L138: “the weaker increase...”: you need a reference here.
R: The reference is the Peruvian system. We will clarify this in the manuscript.
L141: Are the ARGO MLD estimates reliable off Peru? This should be addressed somewhere and ARGO data should be described in the Data and Methods section.
R: We will address the Argo data in the Data and Methods section. As also shown in fig. R1.2, there are on average 120 profiles available summed up over the focus region every month, which allows to robustly estimate the seasonality of the MLD.
We use the Argo MLD calculated based on the temperature threshold, to be consistent with the MLD calculated by the model. As pointed out by Holte et al. (2017), the MLD calculated from hybrid algorithms (an algorithm modeling the general shape of each profile by fitting lines to the seasonal thermocline and the mixed layer, Holte and Talley (2009)) are generally shallower than those derived from the temperature threshold. The de Boyer Montegut data exhibits shallower MLD than Argo but still falls within the median 50% range of the Argo spatial variability for most of the months.
L142: I think there are other hypothesis supporting the high chlorophyll values in the Canary system. This section comparing the different systems is too long and does not focus enough on the main topic of the paper.
R: We will shorten and streamline this section and focus more on the main topic of the paper.
L145-146: I do not agree with the conclusion here: as SST is also strongly correlated with insolation, you can not conclude that the seasonal cycle of temperature drives the phytoplankton growth. For your information, EC08 showed that the temperature effect was negligible in their model set-up (see the end of section 3.3).
R: We agree that a correlation does not imply causality, that is the relationship of SST and Chl does not necessarily mean that a higher SST is causing Chl to increase because SST and Chl could commonly be forced by another variable, namely insolation. We will phrase our sentence more carefully, and include the following arguments that support that the seasonality of light limitation due to insolation is not the driving factor of the correlation of SST and Chl:
(i) EC08 showed based on a sensitivity study that in their model the light limitation due to the seasonality of insolation was weak (see their section 3.5).
(ii) In fig. R1.4, the surface light and temperature growth factors show different seasonal patterns. In addition, the temperature growth factor reveals a greater seasonal variation than the surface light growth factor which would more directly reflect insolation.
Figure 2: the regions where data is averaged in a coastal band in the four systems should be indicated in the supplementary.
R: Thank you for pointing this out. We will add fig. R1.5 in the appendix to indicate the EBUS regions that were used to produce Fig. 2 in the manuscript.
L150: The reason for this is well known: the along-shore wind forcing is enhanced during winter, increasing upwelling and vertical mixing, and the lower winter insolation decreases surface stratification and increases the MLD.
R: We agree that the reasons for stronger upwelling and deep MLD in winter are well known. We here describe the relationships that we find in figure 2e, and emphasise that the Peruvian EBUS is the only EBUS that shows such a positive correlation between MLD and upwelling.
L181: “DV contributes...”: in which figure is this shown?
R: The contribution of ΔV is calculated based on equ. 5, and the effect of dilution is evident from figure 3b-c. This will be stated more clearly in the revised text.
L206: “advection is picking up”: I can not see that, advection seems negligible with respect to mixing (Fig.4d).
R: Yes, we agree that the absolute value of advection is small with respect to mixing. However, less phytoplankton biomass is mixed out of the mixed layer (the change of mixing promotes an increase of phytoplankton biomass, fig. 4f). In contrast, the divergence of advection is increasing (opposing an increase of phytoplankton biomass, fig. 4f), even if it is small in absolute terms. Considering that the fluxes and their changes over the decline phase are 1 - 2 orders of magnitude bigger than the change of phytoplankton biomass, even the changes of fluxes that appear small compared to PP or mixing can contribute to a change of the biomass, and we prefer to show the changes of all the fluxes in fig. 4f.
We noticed that fig. 4 contained a lot of information and was not discussed in sufficient detail in the manuscript to be easily digestible as also indicated by the other reviewer. This is why we will split up fig. 4 into two figures (fig. R2.3-2.4) and add additional detail.
L208-209: “the decreasing rate...”: I do not understand this sentence
R: The entrainment of phytoplankton biomass is decreasing from summer to winter as the MLD deepens. The entrainment is related to the magnitude of the MLD increase, and to the phytoplankton concentration of the water that is entrained from below. The reason for the decreasing rate of entrainment between t1 and t2 is the decreasing phytoplankton concentration below the base of the mixed layer. This will be stated in more detail in the revised manuscript.
L202-2011: This paragraph is very difficult to follow and lacks precise references to the figures in the core of the text.
R: Thank you for pointing this out. As mentioned in our response above, we will split up fig. 4 into two figures (fig. R2.3-2.4) and restructure the paragraph to make it easier to follow.
L222: How do you obtain this 60% decrease based on Eq.3?
R: We used the start of the decline phase as the reference, and checked how the three growth factors changed until the end of the decline phase. Then we used the mathematical product rule to calculate how each growth factor was contributing to the total change of the growth factor. This will be described in more detail in the revised text.
L229: The weak role of temperature is in agreement with EC08.
R: We will explicitly state this general agreement in the text, but will point out also that while in EC08 the role of temperature was concluded to be negligible, in our model it is, while minor, not negligible. That is, the sensitivity of phytoplankton (and the ecosystem) to temperature and potential temperature changes will be model dependent and might be worthwhile to be investigated further.
Discussion
L258-261: I suggest a closer examination of EC08 findings and expand the comparison with their modelling work, which is very similar to what is presented here. In particular, they relaxed iron limitation in their model and found an Chl increase of 20-80% (depending on the latitude) during winter and spring, which corroborates the impact of iron limitation on the seasonal cycle found by Messié and Chavez (2015).
R: Thank you for your suggestion. We will include a discussion of the results of the Fe-sensitivity study by EC08.
L272: the sentence seems incomplete.
R: We will correct this sentence as follows (L272-274):
"As we argued in the previous paragraphs based on the differences of the seasonalities of MLD and upwelling in the Peruvian system, the upwelling of nutrient-rich waters happens when growth conditions are the worst, in particular, light availability is lowest due to deep mixed layers."
L274: “and in deep ...”: rephrase
R: We will rephrase the sentence as follows (L274):
"Also, the upwelled waters are comparatively cool."
L275: “charge”
R: We will add the quotes.
L276: I am not convinced by this hypothesis: the residence time of the upwelled water in the mixed layer near the coast is probably quite short as upwelled waters are rapidly transported offshore by Ekman currents. Thus I do not believe in such preconditioning. Unless you can prove it using the model.
R: Thank you for your feedback with respect to our hypothesis that the co-occurrence of deep mixed layers and upwelling may precondition the summer maximum of phytoplankton biomass. While we think that the hypothesis could be worthwhile to further explore, we agree that it is very speculative. We will remove the section.
L295: “higher” with respect to what? Clarify.
R: Higher with respect to other times/months of the year. We will rephrase the sentence as follows (L295):
"The high surface nitrate concentrations in conditions of deep mixed layers in the Benguela system could be interpreted this way."
L314: Is this a result of the study? It has not been described. I think elaborating on the seasonal cycle of export and zooplankton could have been interesting.
R: Yes, the source of export is part of an analysis of export production not shown so far in the manuscript that we are happy to include (fig. R1.6). Compared with the integrated phytoplankton biomass, integrated small zooplankton biomass appears rather steady. On the contrary, integrated large zooplankton biomass shows a relatively stronger seasonal variance with higher biomass when mixed layers are shallow compared to when they are deep. In our model, large zooplankton is the only source of large detritus, which in turn is the major contributor to the export of particulate organic material (fig. R1.6b). Therefore, the seasonal cycle of export follows closely the seasonal cycle of large zooplankton, with maximal export in austral summer and minimal export in austral winter. As large zooplankton exhibits a stronger seasonal variance than phytoplankton, also export efficiency is correlated with MLD. We will include a more detailed discussion of these results and their implications in the revised manuscript.
L320-332: This discussion is very speculative and vague. I do not find it very useful.
R: We agree that without a more detailed discussion of our results with respect to the seasonality of ecosystem functioning, the discussion appeared speculative. We will streamline this part of the discussion after including the results regarding zooplankton and export as described above.
L340: Echevin et al. (2020) also investigated the mixed layer evolution under climate change (Figure 7), not only changes in upwelling. I encourage the authors to read the papers they cite more carefully.
R: We apologise as we did not want to imply that Echevin et al. (2020) did not investigate the mixed layer evolution under climate change. We will rephrase this part to make it more clear.
L347: Surface chl only slightly increases in the different simulations (2%-17%, Fig. 12a).
R: Thank you for pointing it out. We will indicate the amplitude of the increase in the paper.
L355: The propagation of the seasonal variability up the food web is not documented in the results sections and only mentioned in the discussion: it is not worth mentioning in the conclusion.
R: We will add a more detailed presentation of this aspect to the results section.
L356: what are the remaining open questions about the interactions behind the mixed layer and upwelling dynamics? Be more specific.
R: We will be more specific in the revised version, including that we feel more research is required on how physics will affect ecology, e.g., how the mixed layer and upwelling jointly affect the food web processes and thus food web structure.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Tianfei Xue, 15 Jun 2021
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RC2: 'Comment on bg-2021-113', Anonymous Referee #2, 12 Jul 2021
The authors investigate the mechanism associated to the seasonal variability of phytoplankton biomass in the upwelling system off Peru (PUS) based on a regional biogeochemical coupled model. Their focus in on understanding the apparent “paradox” associated with the fact that there is an out-of-phase relationship of seasonal surface chlorophyll concentrations and upwelling intensity, which is a unique feature of the PUS compared to the other Eastern Boundary Upwelling systems as they illustrate. Their model result indicate that minimum chlorophyll in austral winter during the upwelling season is mostly associated with the enhanced vertical dilution and stronger light limitation of phytoplankton biomass growth due to the deeper mixed-layer at that season. They estimate all the tendency terms at seasonal timescales of the rate of change in phytoplankton biomass (i.e. budget of the phytoplankton biomass) to quantify second-order processes (like reduced phytoplankton growth due to enhanced upwelling of cold waters and lateral advection). They then discuss their results in light of previous works and extend the discussion to implications for understanding net offshore export of phytoplankton biomass. This led us to hypothesize that mixed layer processes along the coast of certainly important for understanding ecosystem functioning.
The paper is interesting and has a sound methodological approach. It provides a synthesis of previous works dealing with this seasonal paradox and extends them nicely through a more in-depth analysis of the processes at work (i.e. detailed budget of phytoplankton biomass) and the broader scope though comparison with other EBUS. It is also well written a pleasant to read.I have only minor comments mostly related to details in the methodology that I consider worth addressing considering that some results presented here are certainly somehow model-dependent.
Minor comments :
l.58-60 : QuickSCAT only cover the periods 1999-2008 so which wind forcing is used to cover the period 1990-2010 ? please clarify if this in an hindcast run or a climatological simulation.
l. 70-73: please indicate that the BioEBUS model was first used to simulate the Peru biogeochemistry by Montes et al. (2014)Montes I., B. Dewitte, E. Gutknecht, A. Paulmier , I. Dadou, A. Oschlies and V. Garçon, 2014: High-resolution modeling the Oxygen Minimum Zone of the Eastern Tropical Pacific: Sensitivity to the tropical oceanic circulation. J. Geophys. Res.-Oceans. 119, doi:10.1002/2014JC009858
l. 78-79 : “In this study, we use monthly output of the final five years for our analyses (years 26−30)” It is not clear with which forcing the spin-up is done and if is this is a repetitive selected year. Earlier it is mention that the simulation covers the period 1990-2010 so to which actual years correspond years 26-30?
Section 2.2.: It is not clear if all the terms associated to BIO are calculated on-line or off-line. If this is off-line, the use of monthly-mean mixed-layer depth for the vertical integration could yield errors that would be worth estimating. Mixed-layer depth can vary sharply at high-frequencies.
Figure 1: “Spatial distribution of the seasonality of surface chlorophyll” what is seasonality exactly? Amplitude of the annual cycle? Seasonality should be defined somewhere.
l.126, Figure 2: The region for averaging the data for the other EBUS is not defined (?). It should be indicated in the text of the caption for clarity. Please also indicate the results for the Chile EBUS.
Caption of Figure 2: “upwelling (estimated based on winds from QuikSCAT, in Sv” Do you mean from Ekman transport or Ekman pumping, or from both?. Please provide details on how upwelling intensity is calculated.
l. 154-156: “In other words, more nutrients only have a strong local positive effect if concentrations are low / would be low otherwise.” This sentence is not clear; please rephrase
l. 163-165: “In the model, surface chlorophyll and nitrogen concentrations together with upwelling intensity and MLD all display a 40-60% seasonal variability” what is it meant by “40-60% seasonal variability”? Please clarify and rephrase.
l.194-195: “We separate biological processes (e.g. primary production, grazing from zooplankton, natural mortality, exudation, sinking) and physical processes (mixing, advection and entrainment) that affect the integrated biomass (Fig. 4b).” The detailed equation should be provided along with details on the method for integrating vertically within a seasonally varying mixed-layer. How do you calculate entrainment for instance?
l. 197-198: “Most biological and physical processes decrease from the start (t1) to the end (t2) of the decline phase (Fig. 4cd).” Biological processes should balance physical processes so when the former increase the later should decrease? We understand from figure 4b that physical processes were multiplied by -1? Could you please clarify and provide details in the text of the caption.
l. 272-273: “As we just argued in the previous paragraphs using the differences of the seasonalities of MLD and upwelling in the Peruvian.” Connect this sentence to the next one?The discussion on the impact of global warming is a bit frustrating since it is only based on the implication of a reduced mixed-layer depth in the future. It could be extended to the expected changes in the tendency terms discussed in the paper.
Figure C4: “The correlation coefficient (R2=0.81) is shown for the decline phase” the correlation uses only 5 points so it is certainly associated to a low level of confidence?
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AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Tianfei Xue, 16 Aug 2021
Dear reviewer,
We would like to thank you for your valuable feedback and your supportive and constructive comments. Your review has helped to improve the clarity of our manuscript.
The authors investigate the mechanism associated to the seasonal variability of phytoplankton biomass in the upwelling system off Peru (PUS) based on a regional biogeochemical coupled model. Their focus is on understanding the apparent “paradox” associated with the fact that there is an out-of-phase relationship of seasonal surface chlorophyll concentrations and upwelling intensity, which is a unique feature of the PUS compared to the other Eastern Boundary Upwelling systems as they illustrate. Their model result indicates that minimum chlorophyll in austral winter during the upwelling season is mostly associated with the enhanced vertical dilution and stronger light limitation of phytoplankton biomass growth due to the deeper mixed-layer at that season. They estimate all the tendency terms at seasonal timescales of the tendency phytoplankton biomass (i.e. tendency of the phytoplankton biomass) to quantify second-order processes (like reduced phytoplankton growth due to enhanced upwelling of cold waters and lateral advection). They then discuss their results in light of previous works and extend the discussion to implications for understanding net offshore export of phytoplankton biomass. This led us to hypothesize that mixed layer processes along the coast of certainly important for understanding ecosystem functioning.
The paper is interesting and has a sound methodological approach. It provides a synthesis of previous works dealing with this seasonal paradox and extends them nicely through a more in-depth analysis of the processes at work (i.e. detailed budget of phytoplankton biomass) and the broader scope though comparison with other EBUS. It is also well written a pleasant to read.
I have only minor comments mostly related to details in the methodology that I consider worth addressing considering that some results presented here are certainly somehow model-dependent.
R: In reply to your comments, we will put additional effort into clarifying the methodology and note where results might be particularly model dependent. Also, we will extend our discussion with regard to climate change.
Please find our point-by-point responses below:
L58-60: QuickSCAT only cover the periods 1999-2008 so which wind forcing is used to cover the period 1990-2010? please clarify if this in an hindcast run or a climatological simulation.
R: Thanks for pointing this out. In the revised manuscript, we will clarify that this study is based on a climatological simulation. We employed the QuickSCAT wind forcing average over the period 1999-2009. We will rephrase the sentence in the manuscript to (L46-48):
"We use a climatological simulation of the three-dimensional regional ocean circulation model CROCO (...) coupled with the biogeochemical model BioEBUS (...) for this study."
L70-73: please indicate that the BioEBUS model was first used to simulate the Peru biogeochemistry by Montes et al. (2014) Montes L, B. Dewitte, E. Gutknecht, A. Paulmier , L Dadou, A. Oschlies and V. Garçon, 2014: High-resolution modeling the Oxygen Minimum Zone of the Eastern Tropical Pacific: Sensitivity to the tropical oceanic circulation. J. Geophys. Res.-Oceans. 119, doi:10.1002/2014JC009858
R: Thank you for pointing us to the first study that employed BioEBUS in the Peruvian system. We will include the reference in the Methods section when introducing BioEBUS.
L78-79: “In this study, we use monthly output of the final five years for our analyses (years 26-30)” It is not clear with which forcing the spin-up is done and if is this is a repetitive selected year. Earlier it is mention that the simulation covers the period 1990-2010 so to which actual years correspond years 26-30?
R: We apologise for not having been more clear about the model set-up. We used the same climatological forcing for the spin-up and output years. No actual years correspond to years 26-30 of the simulation. We will rephrase the sentence in the manuscript to (L78-79):
"We run the model in total for 30 climatologically forced years and use the last five years for the analyses."
Section 2.2.: It is not clear if all the terms associated to BIO are calculated on-line or off-line. If this is off-line, the use of monthly-mean mixed-layer depth for the vertical integration could yield errors that would be worth estimating. Mixed-layer depth can vary sharply at high-frequencies.
R: We will clarify in the manuscript that the fluxes (in mmol N m-3 s-1) associated with BIO were saved as output from the model for each grid box as monthly averages and later (offline) integrated over the MLD using the croco-tools, a collection of Matlab scripts that are provided on the CROCO website for pre- and postprocessing purposes (https://www.croco-ocean.org/download/croco-project/). Only the physical tendencies and the tendency of the phytoplankton biomass are available integrated over the MLD as standard output diagnostic from CROCO-BioEBUS. To be consistent, we integrated all tendency terms off-line over the MLD.
Indeed, the offline integration of the fluxes over the MLD may introduce a bias due to fluctuations within a month. To estimate the difference of the on- and offline calculation, we compared the model output of the monthly mean of the online integration of the tendency of the phytoplankton biomass with the offline integration (fig. R2.1). The on- and offline calculations match fairly well, with a slight underestimation of the tendency of phytoplankton biomass if the term is calculated offline.
Figure 1: “Spatial distribution of the seasonality of surface chlorophyll” what is seasonality exactly? Amplitude of the annual cycle? Seasonality should be defined somewhere.
R: Seasonality here represents the amplitude of the annual cycle. The green shading in fig. 1a shows the spatial distribution of the magnitude of the amplitude of the annual cycle of the surface chlorophyll. We will clarify this in the manuscript and figure caption.
L126, Figure 2: The region for averaging the data for the other EBUS is not defined (?). It should be indicated in the text of the caption for clarity. Please also indicate the results for the Chile EBUS.
R: We pick the same regions as in Chavez and Messie (2009). We will add fig. R2.2 in the appendix illustrates the regions we use to average over.
Our study is conceptual and meant to focus on processes rather than comparing regional details. Testa et al. (2018) find that the paradoxical correlation between upwelling and surface chlorophyll is not observed in the Chile EBUS, with low surface chlorophyll in austral winter when MLD is deep and upwelling is weak. The seasonality observed off Chile might resemble the Californian system but it would require a more in-depth analysis to provide conclusions. Therefore we here follow Chavez and Messie (2009) and do not include the Chile EBUS.
Caption of Figure 2: “upwelling (estimated based on winds from QuikSCAT, in Sv” Do you mean from Ekman transport or Ekman pumping, or from both?. Please provide details on how upwelling intensity is calculated.
R: The upwelling values (estimated based on winds from QuikSCAT, in Sv) are digitized from Chavez and Messie (2009). The 'upwelling' is calculated as a combination of Ekman transport and Ekman pumping Chavez and Messie (2009) section 3.2.
L154-156: “In other words, more nutrients only have a strong local positive effect if concentrations are low / would be low otherwise.” This sentence is not clear; please rephrase
R: We will rephrase the sentence in the manuscript to (L156-157):
"Nutrient enrichment would only stimulate higher productivity if the region was nutrient-limited".
L163-165: “In the model, surface chlorophyll and nitrogen concentrations together with upwelling intensity and MLD all display a 40-60% seasonal variability” what is it meant by “40-60% seasonal variability”? Please clarify and rephrase.
R: Here, “40 - 60% seasonal variability" refers to the amplitude of the annual cycle relative to the annual mean. We will rephrase the sentence to:
"Over the course of the year, surface chlorophyll, surface nitrogen concentrations, upwelling intensity and MLD vary by 40 - 60% relative to their annual mean values."
L194-195: “We separate biological processes (e.g. primary production, grazing from zooplankton, natural mortality, exudation, sinking) and physical processes (mixing, advection and entrainment) that affect the integrated biomass (Fig. 4b).” The detailed equation should be provided along with details on the method for integrating vertically within a seasonally varying mixed layer. How do you calculate entrainment for instance?
R: Thanks for pointing out that we missed to explain how we calculated the entrainment. We will add the full equation of the MLD budget of phytoplankton biomass and an explanation of how we calculate entrainment to the revised manuscript. We calculated the entrainment as the residual following the calculation of entrainment for physical variables in the CROCO code, as the difference between the MLD-integrated biomass tendency and the sum of the biological and physical fluxes integrated over the MLD of the previous month. All biological and physical fluxes (except for entrainment) were saved monthly from the model in the unit of mmol N m-3 s-1, and we integrated the terms off-line over the MLD using the croco-tools (see our response to the comment above). Further, we calculated the tendency of the MLD-integrated phytoplankton biomass as the difference of the MLD-integrated phytoplankton biomass between months, and interpolated the MLD-integrated biomass tendency to the same time points as the other biological and physical terms before calculating the entrainment.
L197-198: “Most biological and physical processes decrease from the start (t1) to the end (t2) of the decline phase (Fig. 4cd).” Biological processes should balance physical processes so when the former increase the later should decrease? We understand from figure 4b that physical processes were multiplied by -1? Could you please clarify and provide details in the text of the caption.
R: We apologise for the confusion. Fig. 4 is a complex figure, and we find that we have not provided sufficient detail to make it easy to understand. We will more details to equ. 1 in the manuscript to define each of the fluxes shown in the figure (equ. R2.1). In addition, we will split up fig. 4 into two figures (see fig. R2.3 and fig. R2.4), and will add a more detailed explanation to the manuscript.
The net biological flux (the sum of all biological fluxes) is positive ("biological gain", fig. R2.3b), thus supporting a biomass increase. In contrast. the net physical flux (the sum of all physical fluxes) is negative ("physical loss"), therefore supporting a biomass decrease. The time point t1 marks the seasonal maximum of the MLD-integrated phytoplankton biomass and t2 the minimum at the end of the decline phase. At t1 and t2 the net biological and physical fluxes balance (fig. R2.3b,c) and the tendency of the mixed layer phytoplankton biomass is zero (fig. R2.3a). In between t1 and t2 (fig. R2.3b), the net biomass supply by biological fluxes decreases more quickly than the net biomass removal due to physical fluxes, resulting in an imbalance of the fluxes and the decrease of biomass between t1 and t2.
To check what terms of equ. R2.4 mostly drive the decrease of the biomass between t1 and t2 (fig. R2.4a), we integrated the change of each term over time (that is, the derivatives) between t1 and t2 (shown in fig. R2.4b,c). Therefore, in fig. R2.4b,c, if a bar is positive (red), it means that the change of the term during the decline phase (t1 - t2) promotes an increase of the phytoplankton biomass (mostly reduced grazing pressure and reduced downward mixing). If the bar is negative (grey), it means that the change of the term during the decline phase (t1 - t2) is opposing an increase of phytoplankton biomass. The opposing terms that act to reduce phytoplankton biomass are the ones that contribute to the seasonal paradox (decline of biomass despite the increased supply of nutrients due to upwelling). These terms are mostly reduced primary production and reduced convergence due to advection.
L272-273: “As we just argued in the previous paragraphs using the differences of the seasonalities of MLD and upwelling in the Peruvian.” Connect this sentence to the next one?
R: We rephrased the sentence to (L272-273):
"As we argued in the previous paragraphs based on the differences of the seasonalities of MLD and upwelling in the Peruvian system, the upwelling of nutrient-rich waters happens when growth conditions are the worst, in particular, light availability is lowest due to deep mixed layers."
The discussion on the impact of global warming is a bit frustrating since it is only based on the implication of a reduced mixed-layer depth in the future. It could be extended to the expected changes in the tendency terms discussed in the paper.
R: We agree that extending the expected changes to other tendency terms we discussed in the paper would be nice. In the paper, we refer to these terms as MLD-driven (dilution, light limitation) or upwelling-driven (temperature-limitation, advection). Projections of the change of MLD in response to global warming suggest that MLD will shallow with increasing stratification (fig. 7 in Echevin et al., 2020). It appears not as clear how upwelling will change in a changing climate (Rykaczewski et al., 2015; Oyarzun and Brierley, 2019). In the Peruvian system, upwelling appears to more likely decrease than increase (Echevin et al., 2020). Thus, we will add to the discussion the effect we expect from a weakening of upwelling on the upwelling-driven terms. Also, as we do not have any model results with respect to climate change, we will condense this section on potential implications for climate change to a paragraph, and include it in the final section that we will rename to "Conclusions and potential implications".
Figure C4: “The correlation coefficient (R2=0.81) is shown for the decline phase” the correlation uses only 5 points so it is certainly associated to a low level of confidence?
R: We specifically select the five points for the decline phase here to address the role of advection during the phase that constitutes the seasonal paradox. As evident from fig. C4, the intensity of upwelling appears not to be the key driver of phytoplankton advection during the whole year (the magnitude of the concentration of phytoplankton biomass in the MLD plays a role as well). However, there is a rather strong correlation from April to August during the decline phase that we focus on. We would like to highlight that upwelling and advection are correlated in the decline phase, which is why we used only these five months for the correlation. We will mark in the manuscript and clearly note in the figure captions what time period we use to calculate the correlations over to avoid confusion.
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P. Chavez and M. Messie. A comparison of eastern boundary upwelling ecosystems. Progress in Oceanography, 83(1-4):80–96, 2009.
Echevin, M. G ́evaudan, D. Espinoza-Morriber ́on, J. Tam, O. Aumont, Gutierrez, and F. Colas. Physical and biogeochemical impacts of RCP8.5 scenario in the Peru upwelling system. Biogeosciences, 17(12):3317–3341, 2020.
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