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https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-22-1135-2025
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A shift in circadian stem increment patterns in a Pyrenean alpine treeline precedes spring growth after snow melting
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- Final revised paper (published on 28 Feb 2025)
- Preprint (discussion started on 25 Nov 2024)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3385', Edurne Martinez Del Castillo, 29 Nov 2024
- AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Helen Flynn, 23 Dec 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-3385', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 Dec 2024
- AC2: 'Reply on RC2', Helen Flynn, 23 Dec 2024
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AR – Author's response | RR – Referee report | ED – Editor decision | EF – Editorial file upload
ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (08 Jan 2025) by Matteo Garbarino
ED: Publish as is (13 Jan 2025) by Frank Hagedorn (Co-editor-in-chief)
AR by Helen Flynn on behalf of the Authors (13 Jan 2025)
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The manuscript egusphere-2024-3385, entitled “A shift in circadian stem increment patterns in a Pyrenean alpine treeline precedes spring growth after snow melting” tackles a timely and important ecological issue, namely the effects of climate change on high-elevation ecosystems. The authors use dendrometer data, tree-ring chronologies, and climate data to examine the influence of air and soil temperatures, snowpack duration, and soil water content on tree growth at inter- and intra-annual scales. The results highlight that warmer February and May temperatures promote earlier snowmelt and longer growing seasons, affecting the growth patterns. The figures are well designed and informative, complementing the text and effectively communicating the results. The analyses are succinct to only three years of data, but they are climatically distinct years, which adds variability to the findings. The study introduces a novel perspective on circadian stem increment cycles, giving insights into the inversion of these patterns during snow seasons and their potential phenological implications. Overall, the manuscript would be a valuable contribution to Biogeosciences, but several aspects need to be improved, see my detailed comments below.
Introduction
The introduction is comprehensive, but it could better synthesize the relevance of circadian cycles in tree physiology and tree line dynamics Additional studies could strengthen the literature review and help linking the ecological context of the article. Some examples:
L88. The hypothesis should be formulated at the end of the last paragraph to be quickly identified.
Materials and Methods
The methodological approach is robust but could be more transparent in addressing potential biases or limitations, such as the reliance on snow presence inferred from soil temperature oscillations (L170-176), which might benefit from validation using direct snowpack observations or satellite images. If this method is commonly used to calculate the period of snow presence, other studies should be cited. It is not clear to me whether snow season definitions based on temperature oscillations are an innovative approach, but they could be better validated with alternative snow metrics.
Some methodological details are sparse. For instance, while dendrometer calibration is mentioned, specific steps to address potential biases in measurements (e.g., sensitivity to environmental factors) could be elaborated. The relatively small sample size (only nine trees for dendrometer data) limits the generalizability of the conclusions.
Statistical approaches (e.g. Pearson correlations and moving averages) are valid but might benefit from additional justification regarding their selection.
Results
The findings related to soil water content (SWC) are briefly discussed. Since SWC is a critical factor influencing tree growth, a more detailed exploration of its role during critical phenological transitions could enhance the discussion.
Table 2. It is not clear what the letters after the average±SE mean. The caption says that they indicate significance, but it is not clear what the difference between a, b, or c is.
Table 3. Check the precipitation values for year 2021, those values cannot be mm.
Table 3. The total precipitation of the growing season in 2023 cannot be 114mm if there was 118 mm during May. Check the values, please.
Figure 4. I understand that this analysis starts in mid-April as this is the beginning of the radial increase of the trees, however, the highest historical correlations with climatic variables (in fact, with temperature) were detected in February. In my opinion, these climate-growth relationships are not sufficiently explored and discussed in the article.
Figure 6. This is an excellent summary figure (could be a very illustrative graphical abstract) but might benefit from additional labeling or annotation for clarity. What is the orange square on the tree trunk of the “normal pattern” and “Transition” trees? Why is one filled and the other is not?
Discussion
This is the major weakness of the article, in my opinion. The discussion is rather superficial, and there is a limited exploration of the broader ecological and global implications of the findings. It effectively connects findings to prior research, but a deeper exploration of how these results might generalize to other alpine ecosystems would increase the manuscript's broader applicability. The authors could explore deeper into the ecological significance of phenological shifts, particularly their long-term impacts on carbon sequestration and forest dynamics under climate change.
While the study provides detailed and novel insights into circadian stem increment cycles and the influence of snow dynamics on tree phenology, it largely focuses on a specific alpine tree line in the Spanish Pyrenees. The findings are not sufficiently contextualized within a broader ecological framework, such as global alpine ecosystems or potential feedback mechanisms with climate change.
Additionally, the climate-growth relationships shown in the results are not sufficiently explored and are contextualized only using two research papers (Sanmiguel-Vallelado et al., 2019, 2021). For instance, in L283 the authors mention prior studies without citation.
A paragraph explaining the study's limitations is needed. For example, the small sample size of the dendrometer data (i.e., nine trees) undermines the generalizability of the results, especially considering the spatial heterogeneity often present in tree ecotones.
Conclusion
L300 – The last phrase should be an overall conclusion of your findings, not a justification for further studies.