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Modelling temporal variability of in situ soil water and vegetation isotopes reveals ecohydrological couplings in a riparian willow plot
Doerthe Tetzlaff
Jessica Landgraf
Maren Dubbert
Chris Soulsby
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RC1: 'Comment on bg-2021-278', Anonymous Referee #1, 08 Dec 2021
This study by Smith et al. presents a novel combination of in-situ, high-frequency measurements of micrometeorological variables, water fluxes, stores and stable isotopes in soil and xylem togzther with a process-based modelling approach, in order to identify the dynamics of water partitioning under 2 willow trees and a neighbouring grass patch over a growing season.
The increased perspective on soil-plant water dynamics brought by this intensive monitoring, further presented in another manuscript (Landgraf et al., 2021) is used a for a multi-data calibration and evaluation of the ecohydrological outputs provided by the EcH2O-iso model. The authors use this baseline to then evaluate a new conceptualization of water uptake and transport along a vertically-and-laterally-distributed root profile, in order to understand the relation between soil and xylem water dynamics and signatures.
The topic addressed by this study is highly relevant to the ecohydrological research community, with an impressive experimental setup combined with a state-of-the-art modelling approach. The performance of the model with respect to diverse ecohydrological observations at contrasting plots (willow and grass) provides a multi-facetted evaluation, strengthening a baseline for further hypothesis testing. However, I am quite concerned with the way the modelling development at the core of the second part of this study, i.e. the “distance-based mixing” component along the root-xylem system, is presented, applied, and its overall performance. By contrast with the stated rationale, in my view the methodology does not consistently address the question of better identifying the spatial heterogeneities among water pools sustaining plant development. For these reasons, among other ones further detailed below (including modelling setup), I think a thorough revision of the study design and presentation is needed before this manuscript can be considered for publication in Biogeosciences.
General comments
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The rationale for the distance-based mixing development is to mimic the capacity of the root system to tap water pools at various depths and that may be laterally distant, in a spatially- and time-explicit manner. The authors take good care in considering the time domain, and describe in Sect. 3.3.2 how the non-zero length of the root system translates into root-scale transit times distributions. In the spatial domain, it seems that the modelling approach links xylem water to same-pixel (6x6 m2) soil water, both in terms of root uptake and signature (isotopic content or ages). My understanding is that transpiration in ECH2O-iso uses same-pixel water content, and the distance-based mixing application makes no clear mention of which simulation pixel is considered. Section 3.2.1 mentions that the proportion of “potential root-uptake from outside model cells containing vegetation”, I find it confusing that no explicit mention of how this is actually taken account is further made, and Fig. 6 suggests that same-pixel signatures (soil and xylem) are compared. However, it is clearly stated in the Discussion that “small-scale [vertical] variations, as well as the large spatial differences from the soils below the willows and below the grass, and between different soil layers (Fig 3) reveal the significant heterogeneity of the site despite relatively immature soils and the local spatial scales” (L505-507) and then, crucially, that “around half of the [water] uptake (by root length and water availability) estimated to occur outside of the willow [pixels]”(L518-520). It is then likely that a significant part of the isotopic signal found in the xylem of Willow 2 originates from water pools in neighboring, dynamically-distinct vegetation patches, in particular the grass patch. It makes it difficult to then assess the added value of this “distance-based mixing” model, which seems to essentially add a lag-based component to water mixing in along the root-stem continuum, while fine-scale spatial patterns may play a crucial role.
This inference is only based on the main text though, as the source code for root-stem mixing does not seem to be part of the main EcH2O-iso repository referenced in this manuscript (if that is correct, it would seem appropriate that the authors publish the full source code used in this study). As such, this approach ressembles a conceptualzation adopted in an earlier study published by some of the authors, cited in this manuscript, where a tree storage component was shown to improve modelled xylem isotopic signature at a coarser spatial scale where lateral contributions may cancel out (Knighton et al., 2020).
Given the above, I encourage the authors to clarify throughout the manuscript what water pools (in particular, “laterally” speaking) are considered when quantifying root water uptake and associated isotopic signatures and transit times. If these are indeed limited to the local (same-pixel) scale, then the scope of this paper becomes more limited, and I suggest to discuss much more thoroughly the limitations of this study, beyond merely stating “the potential influence of spatio-temporal variability of source waters on xylem isotopes” (L.520-521), including a potential rejection of the adopted root-xylem model conceptualization.
Non-exclusively, a stronger case for the development of the distance-based mixing approach could be made using a case where the contribution of soil pools within root radial extent are considered in calculating xylem water ages and isotopic signatures (e.g. extrapolating from grass-patches values, since Landgraf et al. (2021) suggest that Willow 2 is surrounded by Willow1 and grass patches otherwise?). Ideally the water fluxes should also be factored in when calculating transpiration ; if it requires a heavier development of the ECH2O-iso code, the associated limitation should again be thoroughly discussed, as a bare minimum. -
The general concern described above also arose because it does not seem that the “distance-based” model significantly outperforms the default “instant mixing” approach (Figure 6 and Table 4), contrary to what is stated in the Discussion (L515-516). In evaluating the two mixing approaches, the authors took a very welcome step in comparing, in both approaches, the cases where “transit time and xylem isotopes were calibrated 1) using modelled soil isotopic compositions and sap flow, and 2) using measured soil isotopes and sap flow” as “The use of measured soil isotopes and sap flow tests the maximum potential for how each model performs and is not limited to the performance of EcH2O-iso for sap flow or soil isotope” (L273-276). In the end, I can only agree with the authors that “seasonal magnitudes of xylem isotope dynamics were predominantly due to differences in simulated v. measured soil isotopes in the shallow soils [rather than differences between mixing approaches]” (L527-528), and it also seems that AIC and KGE values, in the case of using measured soil istopes and sap flow, are rather close between “instantaneously mixing” and “distance-mixing” cases, with even KGE values slightly higher in the former case (Table 4). On a side note, it seems somewhat surprising that these higher KGE values translate into slightly worse AIC values given that the “distance-mixing” requires 4 additional parameters as compared to the “instantaneously mixing”.
Specific comments
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L31: The 80-90% T/ET estimate by Jasechko et al. (2013) is often thought to be overestimated ; maybe the “updated” estimate Schlesinger & Jasechko (2014) would be more appropriate for citation.
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L36: Please considering citing the original, peer-reviewed publication by Zink et al. (2017)
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L36-37: I am not sure what is meant by “beyond vegetation uptake during the growing season”, please rephrase.
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L43: Rather than “small or larger scales”, please consider providing indicative scale (e.g. plot to stand)
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L65: Appropriate citations of ecohydrological modelling advances may also include Maneta et al. (2013) and Fatichi et al. (2012).
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L81-82: The stated achievements are rather general ; additionnally it would preferable to have this section turned this into research questions and/or testable hypotheses (it is not clear to me what these are), to further detail the general goal described L79-80. In this process, rather than “exploring” achievements/question #2 should better state the adopted stategy regarding root-mixing development and its evaluation/rejection (see General Comments)
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Fig. 1: In connexion with the General Comments regarding the rooting system, it would be welcome to have a visual description of the land patches neighbouring the study plots (e.g. in Fig 1b or c, as in Fig. 1c in Landgraf et al., 2021), since the main text (L90-91) only describes what is at least 20m away from the plots.
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L117: Did the author mean “Köppen Index Cfb”?
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L147-155: I could not find a description of how in-situ LAI measurements are carried out, although such data is presented in Fig. 5, could the authors clarify?
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L177-183: It seems from the text that the version of code used in this study uses the SPAC module developed by Simeone et al. (2019), if so the authors should acknowledge and cite this work
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L206-207: Is it a full mixing in the whole soil domain? Or some compartments are differentiated?
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L217: The 100 “best” simulations have not been defined yet, please refer to Sect. 3.4.2
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L240: I do not understand the synchrony between the proposed descriptino of rooting length and SPAC, as the latter module is mostly focused on tree mortality (roots included).
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Eq. (1): I am not sure how this equation was derived from Sperry et al. (2016). I am guessing it combines the cumulative root proportion provided in Eq. (6) in the above reference, the use of center-of-biomass depth, and layer depths in EcH2O-iso, but the intermediate steps to Eq. (1) escape me. In addition, I am confused so as if the beta factor here is the same beta found in Sperry et al. (2016) and its relation to the exponential factor kroot, also because the value of 0.995 is also found (for beta) in Sperry et al. (2016) Also, in calculating the vertical length, shouldn’t one add the height-above-ground at which xylem measurement are made (here, 1 meter)?
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L246-253: This approach differs from Sperry et al. (2016), where the volume of roots is calculated in the first layer, using radial length in the first layer, and then radial in others layers is estimated by assuming that each layer has the same volume of root. It is likely not the case here because layer depth is fixed but kroot seems to be calibrated and differs between simulations. So I am guessing the authors used total root volume, implying that Eq. (2) uses total rooting depth (rather than d1 as currently written) and then use Eq. (3) as a custom-made formula to reach the radial lengths in each layer?
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L249: According Sperry et al. (2016), D should be the maximum rooting depth, not the total soil depth.
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L252-263: While the principles of root-length-based transit times is nicely described, it is quite furstrating not to see the calculated values for the rooting length (radial, vertical, total) in the results section or elsewhere in the manuscript. This could be a supplementary figure or table, at a minimum.
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L264-265: At first glance, this no-cavitation hypothesis seems inconsistent with the integration of the SPAC module, whose purpose is precisely to describe occurrence of cavitation using plant hydraulics. Did the authors found evidence that no cavitation occurred during the simulated growing season?
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L288: Do the authors mean that the bottom depth of each layer in the model is fixed to correspond to 10, 40, 100cm, with effective layer “thickness” of 10, 30, and 70 cm, respectively? This information is provided in Table 3’s caption, but it would be handy to have it earlier in the manuscript.
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L293-295: How is the grouping done for vegetation parameters? This is quite unclear, all the more that the type of information on calibrated paremters in Table S1 is not provided for vegetation parameters, could the authors provide a similar table? In addition, the SPAC module requires further parameterization that was carefully constrained in Simeone et al. (2019), but no mention is made on this topic, nor associated parameters, in the manuscript. Overall, it seriously limits the reader’s understanding of the modelling setup used in this study.
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L305: Have the authors looked at the additional information brought by lc-excess? This could further helps analyzing contribution from shallow/deep soil horizons, and further fractionation effects (or lack thereof) during root-stem transport.
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L307: By “split calibration”, do the authors mean using a calibration period and a validation period? Or a calibration period for one step, and another period for the other step? A combination of both? Please clarify.
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L309-315: I am confused so as to how this step-wise calibration was performed. First, I am interpreting L309-310 as having a first step using isotopes, energy fluxes and water balance data as a constraint, and then a second step using biomass data ; or rather, 4 steps for each data group? Please be more explicit, and possibly add this information to Table 2 as well. Secondly, since each steps use 100,000 samples, I am guessing that step i+1 does not use a subsampling from calibration step i ; how were the calibration steps connected? Overall, this section needs a substantial rewriting to understand how calibration was actually performed ; under which hyptoheses regarding parameter space, total number of parameters, etc. Consider adding additional supplmentary tables with information on calibration ranges at each step, resampling procedures, etc.
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L325-328: How was the sub-dsicretization done? Also, why not trying to change the thickness of the first layer so that the measurement depths fall within the model layers, not at interfaces between model layers (e.g. layer 1 could be 20cm-deep)? Adding the same red line to L1 mositure under grassland could be informative in checking for percolation ; from these figures it seems that infiltration-percolation under the grass patch is underestimated.
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L330: Another obvious isotopic feature is the much higher ~week-scale variability in 10cm isotopic at site A (Fig 3a) as compared to site B (Fig 3b) . This is reasonably differentiated in the simulations cells although 1. simulations at site A are too dampened and 2. there an unrealistic depletion in October at site B. While the former is briefly mentioned in Sect 4.3, I suggest to add these descriptions here and discuss them further on in the Discussion.
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Figure 3: Are isotopic datasets daily-averaged in this figure? If so, it should be stated somewhere in the main text.
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L344: The model description states that there are two thermal layers in EcH2O-iso (without providing the depth of each), can the authors briefly describe how they extrapolated the modelled soil temperatures at three depths?
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L345: Although the scales in Fig. 4 (Site B, latent & sensible heat fluxes) are quite squeezed (please consider expanding them), it is apparent that latent heat is overestimated thoughout the growing season.
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Figure 4: How was modelled grass transpiration converted into sapflow? It would be informative to see the transpiration rate (mm/d) in the second row, perhaps using a secondary y-axis on the right?
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L358-364: Could the authors precise which MODIS LAI product was used? These products usually have a much larger spatial resolution (500m-1km) then the modelled domain of this study. Can the auhors develop on their methodology and assumptions made to distinguish willow and grass patches?
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L370: A reference to Table 3 would be useful.
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Table 3: This table shows a lot of information. It might be much more reader-friendly if transformed to a multi-panel plot, either using bar or points with errorbar, e.g. keeping the row and column organization with facets and a color code for time periods. In addition, the third grouped-row (RU-L*) might be more intuitive if instead of layer number, depth ranges were used (e.g. RU[0-10cm]).
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Figure 6: My understanding is that soil isotopes are measured in-situ at three depths, as reported in Fig. 3; why then are there not 3 solid lines in the diurnal plots, instead of 1 (panels a) and c)) or none (panels b) and d)), and why is the solid (measurement) line flat, as if there no high-frequency information? Additionnally, given the high-frequency dynamics, readability would be improved by making this figure wider, e.g. having Willow 1 and Willow 2 panels on top of each other.
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L412: A reference to Fig 3a (in addition to Fig 6a & b) would be helpful.
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Table 4: I am assuming the values between brackets give KGE variability among best runs? If so, why isn’t the same number given for AIC? Consider using a plot rather than a table (altough less critical than for Table 3).
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L440-449: In my view this labelling by “contributing month of the year to current store/flux” rather provides a very nice perspective, equally important and intituive as the “time elapsed since arrival” reported above ; it directly replies to the question “what precipitation period is most important for plant water use?” ; I would suggest to move key Fig. S3 to the main text.
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Fig. 7: “Time in xylem” (panel g) is somewhat misleading, as the transit time considered integrate transit along root and xylem? Besides, my impression was that transit length (and thus time) in the xylem was neglected when computing v(i) in Eq. (1) (see related comments above)?
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L450: “an incrase of zero days” seems somewhat odd, maybe rephrase: “Since intantenous(ly?) mixing equates xylem water age to that of where water is taken up (reaches 1m instantly), transit times along the root-xylem system are only shown…”.
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L479-496: The underestimation in modelled willow transpiration (or rather, th sapflow, see a comment above) at the end of the growing season is quite interesting, as perhaps not as “minor” as stated here ; the model-data discrepancy exceeds the dispersion among best runs. That would deserve further discussion, as the current ones somewhat circumvent the issue with more general considerations. Besides, the concommitent overestimation of modelled L1 moisture (and possibly L2’s, and thus percolation, Fig. 3a) suggests that it’s not necessarily due to missed contributions from adjacent cells or a short-term reliance on deeper stores (which would have been interesting as a drought-protection process!), but merely that there is something wrong with evaporative demand when the energy balance is computed ; is it something due modelled energy fluxes and/or to forcings? In other words, is a process being missed?
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L480-481: Is this sentence suggesting that EcH2O-iso account for off-cell contribution to calculate root water uptake? And associated transit times?
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L492-494: From the ‘slight descrease’ I am wondering if the authors meant “was under stress”? Besides, it could be informative to further have the absolute biomass in each compartment (in addition to biomass allocation) reported somewhere, perhaps as time series over the growing season, to check if the potential decay rates exceed (or not) allocation, and where.
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L514-521: I assume this part of the discussion will be substantially revised (see General Comments)
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L536-539: If the measurement uncertainty is known, it would be highly informative to add it as error bars on any related plots presented in this manuscript. Actually, it should be common practice, helping to tamper interpretations where inferred dynamics are commensurate with uncertainties.
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L546-553: This issue could be explored with the different tree storage mixing types presented in Knighton et al. (2020), it could help the current discussion and open avenues for further development?
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L552: Are the authors referring to measured basal diameter?
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L561-563: Maybe further precise “across Switzerland” after “Allen et al. (2019)” and “in the study region” before “(Miguez-Macho and Fan, 2021)”?
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L575-578: This is also potentially due to the fact that other studies considered root-to-shoot transit times (Meinzer et al., 2006) while this study “stops” at 1m height.
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L579: Essential or indispensable?
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L580-591: Again, it is quite surprising not to see any references to Knighton et al. (2020), a study the authors contributed to, and which precisely studies this issue of tree water storage and mixing.
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L589: Mennekes et al. (2021) and Benettin et al. (2021) are recent studies on this topic, albeit in semi-controlled conditions.
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Conclusion: Having the Conclusion framed as Summary (L596-608) seems a bit redundant with the abstract and the main text. Rather, discussing high-level limitations, insights and potential avenues would more efficient.
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Figure S1: The channel is not represented in Fig 1b, and the similar color code for snowpack/channel may confuse the reader).
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Code availability: The statement is somewhat incomplete, as the post-processing model to compute root geometry and and associated transit times does not seem to be on the referenced repository.
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Data availability: Again, this statement is misleading, first because “open-access” is incompatible with password-protection. Secondly, not all the data used in this manuscript is archived in the provided link ; only sapflow, stem variation and in-situ isotopes data are listed, while neither eddy-covariance energy fluxes, micrometeorological measurements, in situ LAI, and soil moisture can be found. I would strongly encourage to have all datasets published, or at a minimum have them listed along with their open-access metadata on FRED so that potential users can make informed queries to the curators.
Technical comments
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L34: ”seasons” instead of “seasonally”?
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L80: “using” instead of “by”?
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Table 1: Precipitation is in mm (not mm/year), given that column 4 reports the value over the growing season only.
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L155: I am guessing that “any” refers to wounding effects, but the formulation seems odd. Consider rephrasing.
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L334: “to measured δ2H”?
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L440-441: Rather than “discretized”, maybe “aggregated” is more accurate?
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L455: “[…] from the tip of the roots to 1m […]”
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L545 & L552: It seems this Fig. S5 is missing, and that the current Fig. S5 is the one referred to as “Fig. S6”)
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Figure S1: “Maneta (2021)” does not seem to exist, did you mean “Maneta et al. (2013)”?. In addition, there are two “Smith et al. (2020)” cited in this manuscript, but I could find a similar figure in neither of these references...please clarify.
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Fatichi, S., Ivanov, V. Y., & Caporali, E. (2012). A mechanistic ecohydrological model to investigate complex interactions in cold and warm waterâcontrolled environments: 1. Theoretical framework and plotâscale analysis. Journal of Advances in Modeling Earth Systems, 4(2).
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Knighton, J., Kuppel, S., Smith, A., Soulsby, C., Sprenger, M., and Tetzlaff, D.: Using isotopes to incorporate tree water storage and mixing dynamics into a distributed ecohydrologic modelling framework, Ecohydrology, 13, 2020.
Landgraf, J., Tetzlaff, D., Dubbert, M., Dubbert, D., Smith, A., and Soulsby, C.: Xylem water in riparian Willow trees (Salix alba) reveals shallow sources of root water uptake by in situ monitoring of stable water isotopes, Hydrol. Earth Syst. Sci. Discuss., https://doi.org/10.5194/hess-2021-456, in review, 2021.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Aaron Smith, 09 Dec 2021
The authors thank the reviewer for their constructive comments on the manuscript. Our reply here is intended to clarify key issues identified by the reviewer, and we will conduct a point-by-point response to all comments at a later date.
One of the primary concerns that the reviewer has raised with the distance-based approach is the linkage with EcH2O-iso functionality and set-up. The reviewer is corrected that the standard version of EcH2O (and EcH2O-iso) results in vegetation water originating only from the same cell. The authors had tried to indicate that this structure had been modified for the application at this study site as this structure was deemed to be a limiting factor here due to insufficient water to maintain transpiration within the willow cells. It was for this reason that the aspect ratio of roots was introduced to directly estimate the proportion of roots (and water uptake) inside and outside (neighbouring) the cell. The isotopic composition in xylem (and age) is thereby a mixture of current and surrounding cell isotopic composition. The authors can revise Figure 6 to better indicate that soil water sources indicated are a combination of the current and surrounding cells. The distance-based mixing does not only encompass a “lag-based” component but also encompasses the mixing of different water pools, amounts, and temporal periods. From this perspective, the authors believe that the approach presented accounts for fine spatial scale patterns.
The root-stem mixing utilized in this manuscript was not part of the EcH2O code; rather, utilizing outputs from EcH2O-iso to drive the mixing as described in the manuscript. This includes the proportion of water use from different cells and at different soil depths. The approach here differs from the approach as defined in Knighton et al. (2020) in that mixing described here utilizes the rooting distribution and distances to physically describe mixing. While lateral contributions (outside the cell) will diminish with a coarser model scale, this approach maintains the mixing of different temporal water pools within the cell defined by the vertical (Kroot) and horizontal (aspect) root distribution.
The authors explicitly chose to include the AIC as a means to test the significance of the added parameters required by the distance-based approach as efficiency criteria do not present this significance, and visual inspection may be skewed due to the relatively short transit time. Visually, differences are more difficult to identify given that the exponential profiles of roots produced a distribution of transit times with a long tail (i.e. older water uptaken by vegetation). While the AIC may be close, the difference is significant, where smaller values show substantial improvement in performance. Given that AIC utilized log-likelihood functions for evaluation, it is unsurprising that there may be some differences between the outcome of AIC and KGE. Furthermore, while there is the appearance that the distance-based mixing is outperformed by the instant mixing when the measured isotopic values are utilized, it is important to recognize that mixing utilizes calibrated root distributions. These distributions are estimated as part of the optimisation of the whole EcH2O-iso model and are not optimised for uptake proportions when more enriched soil isotopes are utilized.
The authors are confident that the above clarifications to the manuscript as well as other revisions suggested by the specific comments would result in a clear presentation of the approach used by the study, the model set up and the significance of the findings.
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RC2: 'Reply on AC1', Anonymous Referee #1, 14 Dec 2021
I thank the authors for taking the time for these preliminary clarifications, before the full response.
Having the lateral contributions explicitly accounted for is a very welcome development, and I will be looking forward to reading the response and revised manuscript. As a side note, I am thus also assuming that the lateral contribution are also included in terms of water amount (not only signature/age) when transpiration is computed, for consistency. This seems to be a major, exciting development in the ech2o-iso model (and probably as compared to many models), and it would seems appropraite to add the description of this feature somewhere in the revised manuscript.
Finally, I am not really convinced by the explaination regarding higher KGE for instant mixing when measured istopes and sapflow are used. Both mixing schemes (distance-based and instant) use the calibrated root profiles, with the inherent structural limitation associated to it, and it seems that neither case is constrained by xylem concentrations or any root-related information on water signatures. Thus it is not clear to me why either mixing model could "have a head start" on the other. I would welcome further clarification on this topic in the response to come and revised manuscript.
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Aaron Smith, 09 Dec 2021
The authors thank the reviewer for their constructive comments on the manuscript. Our reply here is intended to clarify key issues identified by the reviewer, and we will conduct a point-by-point response to all comments at a later date.
One of the primary concerns that the reviewer has raised with the distance-based approach is the linkage with EcH2O-iso functionality and set-up. The reviewer is corrected that the standard version of EcH2O (and EcH2O-iso) results in vegetation water originating only from the same cell. The authors had tried to indicate that this structure had been modified for the application at this study site as this structure was deemed to be a limiting factor here due to insufficient water to maintain transpiration within the willow cells. It was for this reason that the aspect ratio of roots was introduced to directly estimate the proportion of roots (and water uptake) inside and outside (neighbouring) the cell. The isotopic composition in xylem (and age) is thereby a mixture of current and surrounding cell isotopic composition. The authors can revise Figure 6 to better indicate that soil water sources indicated are a combination of the current and surrounding cells. The distance-based mixing does not only encompass a “lag-based” component but also encompasses the mixing of different water pools, amounts, and temporal periods. From this perspective, the authors believe that the approach presented accounts for fine spatial scale patterns.
The root-stem mixing utilized in this manuscript was not part of the EcH2O code; rather, utilizing outputs from EcH2O-iso to drive the mixing as described in the manuscript. This includes the proportion of water use from different cells and at different soil depths. The approach here differs from the approach as defined in Knighton et al. (2020) in that mixing described here utilizes the rooting distribution and distances to physically describe mixing. While lateral contributions (outside the cell) will diminish with a coarser model scale, this approach maintains the mixing of different temporal water pools within the cell defined by the vertical (Kroot) and horizontal (aspect) root distribution.
The authors explicitly chose to include the AIC as a means to test the significance of the added parameters required by the distance-based approach as efficiency criteria do not present this significance, and visual inspection may be skewed due to the relatively short transit time. Visually, differences are more difficult to identify given that the exponential profiles of roots produced a distribution of transit times with a long tail (i.e. older water uptaken by vegetation). While the AIC may be close, the difference is significant, where smaller values show substantial improvement in performance. Given that AIC utilized log-likelihood functions for evaluation, it is unsurprising that there may be some differences between the outcome of AIC and KGE. Furthermore, while there is the appearance that the distance-based mixing is outperformed by the instant mixing when the measured isotopic values are utilized, it is important to recognize that mixing utilizes calibrated root distributions. These distributions are estimated as part of the optimisation of the whole EcH2O-iso model and are not optimised for uptake proportions when more enriched soil isotopes are utilized.
The authors are confident that the above clarifications to the manuscript as well as other revisions suggested by the specific comments would result in a clear presentation of the approach used by the study, the model set up and the significance of the findings.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-2021-278-AC1
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AC1: 'Reply on RC1', Aaron Smith, 09 Dec 2021
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RC2: 'Reply on AC1', Anonymous Referee #1, 14 Dec 2021
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AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Aaron Smith, 06 Jan 2022
The authors thank the reviewer for their constructive comments, which the authors will incorporate into the manuscript during revision. In particular, the authors will work to clarify the modification made to ECH2O regarding plant water availability, as described in the initial response to Reviewer 1 posted on-line. In reply to RC2, the lateral contributions account for water amount, age, and signature. Regarding the KGE and AIC of distance-based mixing using measured data, the authors did not intend to suggest that there was a “head start” by either the instantaneous or distance-based mixing approach. Rather, that the model (and root distributions and water uptake) had been optimized for the simulated soil isotopes, where using simulated soil isotopes the distance-based mixing showed higher performance. While a small sample size, this could suggest that if the model were able to fully reproduce the measured soil isotopes with accompanying root update the KGE of the distance-based approach would be consistent with the AIC. The authors will additionally revise figures, clarify the calibration method as well as the interpretation of the distance-based mixing approach. Further expansion of the discussion section to incorporate suggestions of research direction as well as limitations of the presented approach.
Specific Comments: Reviewer 1
R1C1: L31: The 80-90% T/ET estimate by Jasechko et al. (2013) is often thought to be overestimated ; maybe the “updated” estimate Schlesinger & Jasechko (2014) would be more appropriate for citation.
Response to R1C1: The authors will revise the reference used.
R1C2: L36: Please considering citing the original, peer-reviewed publication by Zink et al. (2017)
Response to R1C2: The authors will revise the reference from UFZ (2021) to Zink et al. (2017).
R1C3: L36-37: I am not sure what is meant by “beyond vegetation uptake during the growing season”, please rephrase.
Response to R1C3: The authors will revise this statement.
R1C4: L43: Rather than “small or larger scales”, please consider providing indicative scale (e.g. plot to stand).
Response to R1C4: The authors will revise “small or large scales” to “plot or stand.“
R1C5: L65: Appropriate citations of ecohydrological modelling advances may also include Maneta et al. (2013) and Fatichi et al. (2012).
Response to R1C5: The authors will add these references.
R1C6: L81-82: The stated achievements are rather general; additionnally it would preferable to have this section turned this into research questions and/or testable hypotheses (it is not clear to me what these are), to further detail the general goal described L79-80. In this process, rather than “exploring” achievements/question #2 should better state the adopted stategy regarding root-mixing development and its evaluation/rejection (see General Comments)
Response to R1C6: The authors will revise the objectives to reduce the generality and improve the clarity of the overall objectives.
R1C7: Fig. 1: In connexion with the General Comments regarding the rooting system, it would be welcome to have a visual description of the land patches neighbouring the study plots (e.g. in Fig 1b or c, as in Fig. 1c in Landgraf et al., 2021), since the main text (L90-91) only describes what is at least 20m away from the plots.
Response to R1C7: The authors will revise Fig 1 to show the surrounding landuse patches as shown in Landgraf et al. (2021).
R1C8: L117: Did the author mean “Köppen Index Cfb”?
Response to R1C8: The authors will add Cfb to the parentheses.
R1C9: L147-155: I could not find a description of how in-situ LAI measurements are carried out, although such data is presented in Fig. 5, could the authors clarify?
Response to R1C9: The authors will add the description of the LAI measurements to the materials and methods section.
R1C10: L177-183: It seems from the text that the version of code used in this study uses the SPAC module developed by Simeone et al. (2019), if so the authors should acknowledge and cite this work
Response to R1C10: The authors will add this citation to the section.
R1C11: L206-207: Is it a full mixing in the whole soil domain? Or some compartments are differentiated?
Response to R1C11: Full mixing is conducted within each soil layer (10, 30, and 60cm depths) and within the canopy and surface stored water (when applicable). The authors will clarify this in the revised manuscript.
R1C12: L217: The 100 “best” simulations have not been defined yet, please refer to Sect. 3.4.2
Response to R1C12: The authors will revise this statement to indicate that this analysis was conducted for each retained parameter set.
R1C13: L240: I do not understand the synchrony between the proposed descriptino of rooting length and SPAC, as the latter module is mostly focused on tree mortality (roots included).
Response to R1C13: This statement was intended to describe the connection between the rooting distribution (vertical only) already present within EcH2O and the proposed lateral root distribution. The authors will remove the reference to the SPAC module to help clarify.
R1C14: Eq. (1): I am not sure how this equation was derived from Sperry et al. (2016). I am guessing it combines the cumulative root proportion provided in Eq. (6) in the above reference, the use of center-of-biomass depth, and layer depths in EcH2O-iso, but the intermediate steps to Eq. (1) escape me. In addition, I am confused so as if the beta factor here is the same beta found in Sperry et al. (2016) and its relation to the exponential factor kroot, also because the value of 0.995 is also found (for beta) in Sperry et al. (2016) Also, in calculating the vertical length, shouldn’t one add the height-above-ground at which xylem measurement are made (here, 1 meter)?
Response to R1C15: In revision, the authors will expand on the derivation of this formula. As the reviewer noted, this equation is based on Eq. 6 from Sperry et al. (2016) (and code provided in the Sperry et al. 2016 publication); however, in the reference, all soil layers have equal biomass which is not the case in EcH2O. The equation was modified to produce biomass proportions at different depth intervals. As noted in Sperry et al. 2016, root biomass is calculated to 99.5% (in the equation here, 0.995) with 0 < β < 1. In EcH2O, kroot has a similar meaning to β but with different parameterised values (0 → ∞). The authors equated the translation of parameters (as indicated in the text) which was tested to ensure that equivalent values were produced before Eq1 was implemented into EcH2O.
R1C15: L246-253: This approach differs from Sperry et al. (2016), where the volume of roots is calculated in the first layer, using radial length in the first layer, and then radial in others layers is estimated by assuming that each layer has the same volume of root. It is likely not the case here because layer depth is fixed but kroot seems to be calibrated and differs between simulations. So I am guessing the authors used total root volume, implying that Eq. (2) uses total rooting depth (rather than d1 as currently written) and then use Eq. (3) as a custom-made formula to reach the radial lengths in each layer?
Response to R1C15: The reviewer is correct that the volumes of roots in each layer are not equal. The authors will revise this section to better indicate that the equation was modified to account for different rooting root proportions in each of the soil layers. As with Eq1, this modification was tested prior to implementation in EcH2O to ensure that if rooting proportions were equivalent in each soil layer the root volume in each layer was also equivalent.
R1C16: L249: According Sperry et al. (2016), D should be the maximum rooting depth, not the total soil depth.
Response to R1C16: Within EcH2O, the vegetation rooting depth is maximized at the maximum soil depth. There is no additional parameterisation to reduce maximum rooting depth. The authors will clarify this in the revision.
R1C17: L252-263: While the principles of root-length-based transit times is nicely described, it is quite furstrating not to see the calculated values for the rooting length (radial, vertical, total) in the results section or elsewhere in the manuscript. This could be a supplementary figure or table, at a minimum.
Response to R1C17: The authors will add the calibrated rooting distributions (radial and vertical) to the supplementary material.
R1C18: L264-265: At first glance, this no-cavitation hypothesis seems inconsistent with the integration of the SPAC module, whose purpose is precisely to describe occurrence of cavitation using plant hydraulics. Did the authors found evidence that no cavitation occurred during the simulated growing season?
Response to R1C18: Given the relatively dry soils below the willow trees, the authors recognised the potential for water stress characteristics which is why the SPAC module was incorporated to test. Ultimately it was found that the willows were not under water stress during the simulated growing season which allowed for this approach to be used. The authors will clarify this in the revision.
R1C19: L288: Do the authors mean that the bottom depth of each layer in the model is fixed to correspond to 10, 40, 100cm, with effective layer “thickness” of 10, 30, and 70 cm, respectively? This information is provided in Table 3’s caption, but it would be handy to have it earlier in the manuscript.
Response to R1C19: The individual measurement depths are already provided in the materials and method section (L140). As the depths of each soil layer are specific to the study site presented here, the introduction of layer depths prior to the model set-up section could create confusion on the model capabilities.
R1C21: L293-295: How is the grouping done for vegetation parameters? This is quite unclear, all the more that the type of information on calibrated parameters in Table S1 is not provided for vegetation parameters, could the authors provide a similar table? In addition, the SPAC module requires further parameterization that was carefully constrained in Simeone et al. (2019), but no mention is made on this topic, nor associated parameters, in the manuscript. Overall, it seriously limits the reader’s understanding of the modelling setup used in this study.
Response to R1C21: The authors will add the vegetation parameters to the table in supplementary material with a description of parameter consideration.
R1C22: L305: Have the authors looked at the additional information brought by lc-excess? This could further helps analyzing contribution from shallow/deep soil horizons, and further fractionation effects (or lack thereof) during root-stem transport.
Response to R1C22: The authors did simulate both δ2H and δ18O and did not find large differences between the variables and measurements. The authors presented only δ2H as it was directly calibrated, δ18O (or lc-excess) did not produce notably different results, and the increased data would make the already data-rich plots more difficult to interpret. Furthermore, the analytical precision of 2H is better than 18O, and the sensitivity of 2H to fractionation is greater than 18O. In addition, the isotopic data of soil (particularly shallow soil) were part of a large quantity of data in multicriteria calibration which was used to constrain multiple water and energy fluxes beyond soil evaporation. Given the similarities in water contribution from shallow/deep soil horizons to Bayesian mixing (Landgraf et al., 2021) the authors are confident in the models capabilities to estimate the contribution with the current multicriteria calibration. It was not an objective of this manuscript to assess potential fractionation in the root-stem transport, and the transport was assumed to be non-fractionating. The authors will clarify this in the revision.
R1C23: L307: By “split calibration”, do the authors mean using a calibration period and a validation period? Or a calibration period for one step, and another period for the other step? A combination of both? Please clarify.
Response to R1C23: The authors intended that “split calibration” meant splitting the data into a calibration and validation period. The authors will clarify this in revision.
R1C24: L309-315: I am confused so as to how this step-wise calibration was performed. First, I am interpreting L309-310 as having a first step using isotopes, energy fluxes and water balance data as a constraint, and then a second step using biomass data ; or rather, 4 steps for each data group? Please be more explicit, and possibly add this information to Table 2 as well. Secondly, since each steps use 100,000 samples, I am guessing that step i+1 does not use a subsampling from calibration step i ; how were the calibration steps connected? Overall, this section needs a substantial rewriting to understand how calibration was actually performed ; under which hyptoheses regarding parameter space, total number of parameters, etc. Consider adding additional supplmentary tables with information on calibration ranges at each step, resampling procedures, etc.
Response to R1C24: The authors will reformat this section to improve the clarity of the stepwise calibration. The stepwise calibration was conducted in two steps: first with the isotopes, energy, and water balances, and second with the biomass data. Because the LAI time-series was used in the first calibration step, the influence of biomass simulations on the first step calibration was negligible. Due to the high sensitivity of the vegetation dynamic parameters, resampling of first step calibration was utilized. The “best 100” simulations show both independent soil and vegetation parameters.
R1C25: L325-328: How was the sub-discretization done? Also, why not trying to change the thickness of the first layer so that the measurement depths fall withinthe model layers, not at interfaces between model layers (e.g. layer 1 could be 20cm-deep)? Adding the same red line to L1 mositure under grassland could be informative in checking for percolation ; from these figures it seems that infiltration-percolation under the grass patch is underestimated.
Response to R1C25: The sub-discretization was conducted using 1cm increments, the authors will add this descriptor during the revision. Changing the thickness of the soil layers to have the midpoint as the measurement location would result in further complications, mainly the added volume that is accessible by soil evaporation and added volume to “dampen” soil moisture response. While the added depth in layer 1 may result in increased fractionation of soil isotopes (particularly at site A), the added volume for mixing will additionally result in a “dampened” isotopic dynamic. As described in the manuscript, the discretization was not utilized in calibration, thereby the “damped” soil moisture response with a deeper soil layer would greatly impact calibration. The authors did additionally sub-discretize the grass site, but due to wetter conditions and more frequent percolation (as shown by the more dynamic moisture in layer 2) the discretized moisture at 10cm was not notably different to the average of the soil layer. Infiltration/percolation appears likely appears low due to the underestimation of the soil moisture in layer at the grass site. It should be noted that the parameterisation of soil layers is uniform, thereby multiple layers must be estimated with the same parameter set. During revision, the authors will discuss the reason for underestimation of moisture in layer 2.
R1C26: L330: Another obvious isotopic feature is the much higher ~week-scale variability in 10cm isotopic at site A (Fig 3a) as compared to site B (Fig 3b) . This is reasonably differentiated in the simulations cells although 1. simulations at site A are too dampened and 2. there an unrealistic depletion in October at site B. While the former is briefly mentioned in Sect 4.3, I suggest to add these descriptions here and discuss them further on in the Discussion.
Response to R1C26: As described in Response to R1C25, part of the reason for more damped isotopic compositions at Site A is in the mixing within the soil depth. A secondary part, particularly in day-to-day variability is soil-vapour interactions. Modelled isotopic variability is dependent on infiltration and soil evaporation only. Thereby, variability in soil isotopes, particularly depletion when no infiltration occurs, cannot be estimated by the model. The model estimates the averaged variability. While there is an “unrealistic” depletion of soil isotopes in October at Site B, this depletion occurs notably at site A due to depleted precipitation isotopes. The difference between sites is likely due to differences in mixing. The authors will add additional descriptions of these characteristics to the discussion during revision.
R1C27: Figure 3: Are isotopic datasets daily-averaged in this figure? If so, it should be stated somewhere in the main text.
Response to R1C27: The isotope datasets were daily averaged for visual purposes. The authors will state the averaging in the figure caption.
R1C28: L344: The model description states that there are two thermal layers in EcH2O-iso (without providing the depth of each), can the authors briefly describe how they extrapolated the modelled soil temperatures at three depths?
Response to R1C28: The soil temperatures at different depths were estimated using the same linear damping formulation used to estimate soil temperature at the bottom of the thermal layers (Maneta et al., 2013). Different depths were estimated by using soil depth of different layers in the formulation following the estimation of surface temperature and thereby are not accounted in the energy balance. The authors will add this description to the manuscript.
R1C29: L345: Although the scales in Fig. 4 (Site B, latent & sensible heat fluxes) are quite squeezed (please consider expanding them), it is apparent that latent heat is overestimated thoughout the growing season.
Response to R1C29: The authors will modify the figure to better show the results.
R1C30: Figure 4: How was modelled grass transpiration converted into sapflow? It would be informative to see the transpiration rate (mm/d) in the second row, perhaps using a secondary y-axis on the right?
Response to R1C30: The authors will revise the y axis label for the grass to indicate that this is the volumetric water utilized by the grass. The authors will add a secondary y-axis to show transpiration rates.
R1C31: L358-364: Could the authors precise which MODIS LAI product was used? These products usually have a much larger spatial resolution (500m-1km) then the modelled domain of this study. Can the authors develop on their methodology and assumptions made to distinguish willow and grass patches?
Response to R1C31: The MODIS dataset used was MOD15A2, the authors will add this product description to the manuscript during the revision. As the reviewer mentions the large (500m) resolution does not provide a clear division of vegetation types. The area surrounding the large (500m) area surrounding the site encompasses a greater majority of leafy tree vegetation, resulting in LAI from MODIS representing LAI of willows more than the grass. As downscaling this information is complex, the authors scaled the dynamics (as indicated in Fig 5) for the grass site using LAI measurements from other studies to provide a maximum and minimum LAI range. A similar procedure was conducted for nearby studies (e.g. Smith et al., 2021). The authors will add this description during the revision.
R1C32: L370: A reference to Table 3 would be useful.
Response to R1C32: The authors will add a reference to Table 3.
R1C33: Table 3: This table shows a lot of information. It might be much more reader-friendly if transformed to a multi-panel plot, either using bar or points with errorbar, e.g. keeping the row and column organization with facets and a color code for time periods. In addition, the third grouped-row (RU-L*) might be more intuitive if instead of layer number, depth ranges were used (e.g. RU[0-10cm]).
Response to R1C33: During the revision the authors will consider translating this table into a figure, though we are mindful that the paper already has a number of complex multi-panel plots and some readers will prefer numerical detail. The authors will change RU-L* to RU[depth] to better aid the readers.
R1C34: Figure 6: My understanding is that soil isotopes are measured in-situ at three depths, as reported in Fig. 3; why then are there not 3 solid lines in the diurnal plots, instead of 1 (panels a) and c)) or none (panels b) and d)), and why is the solid (measurement) line flat, as if there no high-frequency information? Additionnally, given the high-frequency dynamics, readability would be improved by making this figure wider, e.g. having Willow 1 and Willow 2 panels on top of each other.
Response to R1C34:The authors thank the reviewer for identifying this error. The soil legend should indicate measured soil is dashed-line and solid line is simulated soil. The model does not estimate sub-daily variability in soil isotopes. All three soil depths are present on the plot; however, the simulations are all non-diurnal. This will be clarified in revision. The authors will additionally revise the figure as suggested to improve the readability.
R1C35: L412: A reference to Fig 3a (in addition to Fig 6a & b) would be helpful.
Response to R1C35: The authors will add a reference to Figure 3 during the revision.
R1C36: Table 4: I am assuming the values between brackets give KGE variability among best runs? If so, why isn’t the same number given for AIC? Consider using a plot rather than a table (altough less critical than for Table 3).
Response to R1C36: The values in brackets for KGE (as indicated in the caption) are for subdaily variability. Evaluation of only subdaily variability for AIC was too short for significant testing which is why they are not shown. A plot of this data would be more difficult to depict without many subpanels because the scale of AIC changes for different time-steps. There are already a significant number of plots within the manuscript and supplementary material.
R1C37: L440-449: In my view this labelling by “contributing month of the year to current store/flux” rather provides a very nice perspective, equally important and intuitive as the “time elapsed since arrival” reported above ; it directly replies to the question “what precipitation period is most important for plant water use?” ; I would suggest to move key Fig. S3 to the main text.
Response to R1C37: The authors will transfer the fractionation contribution to the supplementary material and move the monthly water contribution to Figure 7.
R1C38: Fig. 7: “Time in xylem” (panel g) is somewhat misleading, as the transit time considered integrate transit along root and xylem? Besides, my impression was that transit length (and thus time) in the xylem was neglected when computing v(i) in Eq. (1) (see related comments above)?
Response to R1C38: The authors will revise the y-label to “time from root-uptake to 1m above stem base”. Eq. (1) provides the vertical distance of biomass and Eq. (3) provides the radial distance. As indicated in Fig. 2, this translates to the distribution of transit times as a function of root length. Longer rooting lengths produce a longer transit time.
R1C39: L450: “an incrase of zero days” seems somewhat odd, maybe rephrase: “Since intantenous(ly?) mixing equates xylem water age to that of where water is taken up (reaches 1m instantly), transit times along the root-xylem system are only shown…”.
Response to R1C39: The authors will revise the statement as suggested by the reviewer.
R1C40: L479-496: The underestimation in modelled willow transpiration (or rather, th sapflow, see a comment above) at the end of the growing season is quite interesting, as perhaps not as “minor” as stated here ; the model-data discrepancy exceeds the dispersion among best runs. That would deserve further discussion, as the current ones somewhat circumvent the issue with more general considerations. Besides, the concommitent overestimation of modelled L1 moisture (and possibly L2’s, and thus percolation, Fig. 3a) suggests that it’s not necessarily due to missed contributions from adjacent cells or a short-term reliance on deeper stores (which would have been interesting as a drought-protection process!), but merely that there is something wrong with evaporative demand when the energy balance is computed ; is it something due modelled energy fluxes and/or to forcings? In other words, is a process being missed?
Response to R1C40: The authors will add further discussion of the late growing season period to improve the explanation of measured and modelled results. The authors indicated that the discrepancy of simulated to measured sapflow was minor as when considering all sapflow measurements (4 measurements in 2 willow trees), the simulation bounds overlap the measurement bounds. As these overlap, there is limited definitive evidence that processes are missing from the model.
R1C41: L480-481: Is this sentence suggesting that EcH2O-iso account for off-cell contribution to calculate root water uptake? And associated transit times?
Response to R1C41: The modifications made to EcH2O-iso calculate the proportion of vegetation water utilized within and outside of the cell of the vegetation. Thereby where water was used from outside the cell, water age and isotopes were additionally considered. Where model domain was exceeded, moisture and isotopes were assumed to be equivalent to the grass as it surrounds the model domain. Mixing in the transit times consider water source (within v. outside cell). The authors will revise the methods section be clarify this modification.
R1C42: L492-494: From the ‘slight descrease’ I am wondering if the authors meant “was under stress”? Besides, it could be informative to further have the absolute biomass in each compartment (in addition to biomass allocation) reported somewhere, perhaps as time series over the growing season, to check if the potential decay rates exceed (or not) allocation, and where.
Response to R1C42: The decrease in root biomass production (relative to leaf and stem) during the growing season is consistent with a willow not under water stress. The vegetation allocates more biomass production to leaves and stems. If the vegetation were under water stress, root biomass production would increase as the vegetation “searches” for water. The authors will add the change in biomass (gC-1m-2) to the supplementary material.
R1C43: L514-521: I assume this part of the discussion will be substantially revised (see General Comments)
Response to R1C43: As described in the Response to General Comments, clarifications in the modifications to the EcH2O-iso model reduce the limitations of the approach. During revision, the authors will clarify the significance of utilizing the approach as well as the limitations of the approach.
R1C44: L536-539: If the measurement uncertainty is known, it would be highly informative to add it as error bars on any related plots presented in this manuscript. Actually, it should be common practice, helping to tamper interpretations where inferred dynamics are commensurate with uncertainties.
Response to R1C45: Error bars related to vegetation isotopes are already presented in Fig. 6, which highlights the wide ranges of xylem isotopes. During revision, the authors will add error bars to the sapflow, and soil moisture, temperature and isotopes to better present the datasets.
R1C45: L546-553: This issue could be explored with the different tree storage mixing types presented in Knighton et al. (2020), it could help the current discussion and open avenues for further development?
Response to R1C45: The authors agree that a combination of tree storage mixing and root-stem transit mixing presents open avenues for further development. Given the periodic nature of the additional contribution, a modification to the tree water mixing (storage and energy-based) would likely refine model estimations. The authors will add this to the discussion during revision.
R1C46: L552: Are the authors referring to measured basal diameter?
Response to R1C46: The authors will revise this during revision.
R1C47: L561-563: Maybe further precise “across Switzerland” after “Allen et al. (2019)” and “in the study region” before “(Miguez-Macho and Fan, 2021)”?
Response to R1C47: The authors will revise this during revision.
R1C48: L575-578: This is also potentially due to the fact that other studies considered root-to-shoot transit times (Meinzer et al., 2006) while this study “stops” at 1m height.
Response to R1C48: While this will have some influence on the transit time, the velocity in the xylem is relatively fast, which even during the late growing season would only add ~3 days on average to the transit time to the leaf. Vegetation species properties contribute to greater changes to the transit time than measurement height in this study. The authors will indicate the measurement height difference in the revision for transparency.
R1C49: L579: Essential or indispensable?
Response to R1C49: The authors will revise this during revision.
R1C50: L580-591: Again, it is quite surprising not to see any references to Knighton et al. (2020), a study the authors contributed to, and which precisely studies this issue of tree water storage and mixing.
Response to R1C50: This section was intended to directly discuss the impact of cell storage release as a contribution to root-stem transport mechanisms. It was not the intention to downplay the significance of the results of the work conducted by Knighton et al. (2020) which is acknowledged elsewhere in the manuscript. As with Response to R1C45, the authors will add further discussion of potential advancements with reference to the work conducted by Knighton et al .(2020), though we are also sensitive to potential accusations of overuse of self-citation.
R1C51: L589: Mennekes et al. (2021) and Benettin et al. (2021) are recent studies on this topic, albeit in semi-controlled conditions.
Response to R1C51: The authors will add these references to the discussion during revision.
R1C52: Conclusion: Having the Conclusion framed as Summary (L596-608) seems a bit redundant with the abstract and the main text. Rather, discussing high-level limitations, insights and potential avenues would more efficient.
Response to R1C52: The authors will revise the conclusions during revision to reduce “summary” of results.
R1C53: Figure S1: The channel is not represented in Fig 1b, and the similar color code for snowpack/channel may confuse the reader).
Response to R1C54: The authors will remove “channel” from the legend in Fig S1.
R1C54: Code availability: The statement is somewhat incomplete, as the post-processing model to compute root geometry and associated transit times does not seem to be on the referenced repository.
Response to R1C54: Upon publication, the authors will update the bitbucket code to better reflect the code version used in this manuscript.
Data availability: Again, this statement is misleading, first because “open-access” is incompatible with password-protection. Secondly, not all the data used in this manuscript is archived in the provided link ; only sapflow, stem variation and in-situ isotopes data are listed, while neither eddy-covariance energy fluxes, micrometeorological measurements, in situ LAI, and soil moisture can be found. I would strongly encourage to have all datasets published, or at a minimum have them listed along with their open-access metadata on FRED so that potential users can make informed queries to the curators.
Response to R1C55: Upon publication, the authors will update the data available on FRED to better reflect the data used within this manuscript.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-2021-278-AC2
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RC3: 'Comment on bg-2021-278', Anonymous Referee #2, 16 Dec 2021
The study by Smith et al. (bg-2021-278) presents a novel combination of in situ temporally high-resolution measurements of micrometeorological variables, water fluxes, stores and stable isotopes in soil and xylem together with a process-based modelling approach, in order to identify the dynamics of water partitioning under 2 willow trees and a neighboring grass patch over a growing season. The increased perspective on soil-plant water dynamics brought by this intensive monitoring, further presented in another manuscript (Landgraf et al., 2021) is used a for a multi-data calibration and evaluation of the ecohydrological outputs provided by the EcH2O-iso model. The authors use this baseline to then evaluate a new conceptualization of water uptake and transport along a vertically-and-laterally-distributed root profile, in order to understand the relation between soil and xylem water dynamics and signatures.
The topic of this study is highly relevant and timely. The ecohydrological community is ‘on alert’ at present, with novel opportunities arising from in situ, higher-frequency isotope measurements in soil and plants. At the same time many new discoveries related to methodological issues measuring water isotopes in these compartments arise steadily. Both aspects provide opportunities, but also a number of challenges related to modeling these datasets.
The presented study is a complex and well-conducted investigation on how to combine multi-facetted datasets into a joint modeling framework. This is certainly something I applaud the authors for. With multiple years conducting in situ isotope and ecohydrological measurements in several environments, it is simply great to see how such datasets can be put into one modeling framework. Having that said, I find it crucial to also implement measurement uncertainty into modeling frameworks. All the recently discovered isotope effects certainly increased the measurement uncertainty, and this – in my opinion – also increases model uncertainties? Can we even make reliable quantitative statements considering both? I know this goes farther than this publication, but I think it is necessary to have this in mind. Hence, the way this modeling exercise was carried out is excellent and has great potential for using such models for other, recently recorded, in situ datasets. However, the quantitative estimates of this study only incorporate modeling uncertainties. The lack of replication, uncertainty of soil and plant water isotope measurements, and spatial variability of ecohydrological measurements makes the quantitative value of the modeled data at least questionable. While it is probably impossible to address this in the presented study, this should certainly be on the future agenda. However, an honest evaluation and interpretation of the modeled data in that regard would benefit the manuscript in my opinion. At the same time, the manuscript could be shortened by putting less emphasis on the quantitative results and more on the modeling framework, strengths and also weaknesses.
In summary, the study definitely deserves to be published in BG, but requires thorough revision.
Specific comments:
l.75: I would leave out importantly. It is important, but doesn’t need this explicitly here
Fig. 1: Figure caption is incomplete, in particular d) what are the blue and red bars? What is the grey box?
l.144: Sensors were installed until 1 m soil depth. Is that the maximum rooting depth for both willow trees and grass? This is crucial for root water uptake depth determination
l. 145-160: Even though I understand the method is described in Landgraf 2021, the information on how isotope standards were prepared and measured would be good here. Also, referencing the borehole method because of the short description herein should be considered.
l. 178-180 and chapt. 3.2.2: how were these parameters determined/calibrated?
L.214: the last part of the sentence is unclear, please rephrase and clarify
L.216: calibration? How was it calibrated?
L.216-223: this approach is interesting, was this used somewhere before? (citation?). It appears like such an approach would completely neglect preferential flow, am I correct? If yes, this should be stated somewhere (‘does not account for pref. flow’)
L.229: assumed root distributions…this is a BIG assumption. How were they assumed?
3.3.1.: How were the root parameters determined/approximated?
3.3.2.: For someone who does not model every day, the explanation on root length determination should be clearer. Coming from the field side of things, I wonder ‘how is maximum rooting depth implemented?’; which measured parameters does one actually need (precipitation and sap flow?). I also wonder, if the general root distribution in the model always has the same shape? This is a large simplification that is definitely not true for any given vegetation species. How does it look like if we have a deep-rooter, for instance?
How was the fact handled that there very likely were willow roots present underneath the grass, affecting soil water contents and hence, the modeling efforts?
L.277: this is an interesting point, but it should be noted that there is not only an error in simulating, but also measuring soil water isotopes. I am not saying that it should be, but is there a way to include this in such simulations?
L.288-291: Maximum rooting depth is constrained to 100 cm. This needs to be proven/backed up. Stating another paper under review/discussion (here and in many other instances) is sort of cheating, to me. Root water uptake depths shift over a year and it cannot be assumed for the time of experiment (~3 months) that 100 cm max. rooting depth are a given. Please clarify this; I do believe the authors and a quick search tells me that willow trees are generally shallow rooted. However, another citation would help.
L.305 please explain thoroughly, why 18O was not used in calibration
L.306: What is meant with ‘the values for 18O were not greatly different from 2H’? First off, these values are usually very different. Second, the dual-isotope space provides an excellent way of validating the effect of kinetic fractionation. Third, I feel like a comparison of measured and modelled values in dual-isotope space would greatly benefit the trust in the model, apart from the statistical parameters.
Table 2: Calibration data: Why is only sap flow of 1 tree used? Likewise, Surface Temp and latent heat only from site B? This seems subjectively chosen and is not explained in the text.
L.324: …starting from likely, it belongs to discussion
Results: the subjective phrase like ‘adequate’ or ‘slightly different’ should be backed up by some objective measures in the results section.
L.335-338: Just to clarify: The heating cables were not put inside the soil profile, or were they? I am asking this because we did this mistake once in my group and it turned out the cables heated the surrounding soil, hence, producing a heating of the area around the soil gas probes and tdr probes. As a result, one would calibrate data on a totally non-representative dataset that is highly influenced by the heating cables and not representative for the stand.
Figure 3: This looks nice indeed, in particular for Site B! However, I repeat my statement from before that the dual-isotope space allows for a more precise evaluation of model performance and further interpretations such as root water uptake depth or kinetic fractionation. Another thing: There is definitely an uncertainty in the in situ isotope measurements, which is almost never incorporated into modeling. However, modeling always incorporates uncertainty in calibration results. I find this odd and not necessarily correct.
The complete section 4.1 does not make use of any goodness-of-fit criteria and uses subjective and biased statements throughout. For instance, the calibrated sap flow data is judged as ‘adequately captured by the model’. If I look at Fig.4 I (subjectively) see that the dynamics are OK (Site A) while the magnitudes are sometimes. For site B, there are no measured values for sap flow. This is not convincing to me. I strongly recommend adding goodness-of-fit criteria here.
L.343: ‘quite’ well…objective measure?
L.396: simulated day-to-day variability could not reproduce the measured values
4.3: I find this section well-written and less subjective/biased. The general dynamics are met, but it needs to be said that an offset of 10 in d2H is already a large deviation (in isotope space). Now is that because of a non-perfect model fit or, and I am sure that it also plays a role, uncertainty in the in situ measurements. I feel like including some statements/metrics in regard to the measurement part of the second paper submitted by the authors could benefit the interpretation here. I find the aspect of the time-steps quite interesting: Why temporal resolution do we actually need? In isotope-space, daily is already a great resolution.
L.479/480: ‘with only minor under-estimation of the transpiration in the willows toward the end of the growing season’…I do not agree that the deviation is minor (>50%) nor that the fit is great for the rest of the period. The dynamics fit, but the magnitudes often do not. And at site B, no comparison is provided.
(Recent) literature that might be of interest:
Beyer, M. and Penna, D.: On the Spatio-Temporal Under-Representation of Isotopic Data in Ecohydrological Studies, Front. Water, 3, 643013, doi:10.3389/frwa.2021.643013, 2021.
Kühnhammer, K., Dahlmann, A., Iraheta, A., Gerchow, M., Birkel, C., Marshall, J. D. and Beyer, M.: Continuous in situ measurements of water stable isotopes in soils, tree trunk and root xylem: field approval, Rapid Commun. Mass Spectrom., e9232, doi:10.1002/RCM.9232, 2021.
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AC3: 'Reply on RC3', Aaron Smith, 06 Jan 2022
The authors thank the reviewer for their constructive comments which will be incorporated into the manuscript during revision. Using the reviewers suggestions, the authors will revise the results section to better describe and present the uncertainty of both simulated and measured datasets. The authors will expand the study site description to better encompass necessary information pertaining to data measurement (and uncertainty). Additional clarification will be added to the description of the EcH2O model parameterisation and calibration. Lastly, the presentation of model results using goodness-of-fit measures from calibration will be added to the results section to help with the justification of the results and discussion sections.
Specific Comments: Reviewer 2
R2C1: l.75: I would leave out importantly. It is important, but doesn’t need this explicitly here
Response to R2C1: The authors will remove this during revision.
R2C2: Fig. 1: Figure caption is incomplete, in particular d) what are the blue and red bars? What is the grey box?
Response to R2C2: The authors will add further description to Fig 1d. The colored bars correspond to the colors in Fig 1c (location of Site A, B, and AWS).
R2C3: l.144: Sensors were installed until 1 m soil depth. Is that the maximum rooting depth for both willow trees and grass? This is crucial for root water uptake depth determination
Response to R2C3: The maximum rooting depth of each tree was not directly measured. Further measurements of groundwater (~2.2m) were also taken, but it was determined that vegetation source water was not taken from groundwater (Landgraf et al., 2021) and dominant root uptake depth from >50cm.
R2C4: l. 145-160: Even though I understand the method is described in Landgraf 2021, the information on how isotope standards were prepared and measured would be good here. Also, referencing the borehole method because of the short description herein should be considered.
Response to R2C4: The authors will add further descriptions for measurement preparation, standards and methods to the methods section.
R2C5: l. 178-180: and chapt. 3.2.2: how were these parameters determined/calibrated?
Response to R2C5: The authors will add the parameter ranges of the vegetation parameters to the supplementary material. The calibration was conducted as described in section 3.4.2.
R2C6: L.214: the last part of the sentence is unclear, please rephrase and clarify
Response to R2C6: The authors will revise this sentence.
R2C7: L.216: calibration? How was it calibrated?
Response to R2C7: The calibration procedure is in section 3.4, this section is intended only to provide a background of the model and calculation methods. The authors will clarify this section by removing “calibrated” from the section.
R2C8: L.216-223: this approach is interesting, was this used somewhere before? (citation?). It appears like such an approach would completely neglect preferential flow, am I correct? If yes, this should be stated somewhere (‘does not account for pref. flow’)
Response to R2C8: The approach was used in Smith et al. (2020), the authors will add this reference to the section. This approach is dependent on the structure of the model applied (the approach is not specific to EcH2O-iso). Since EcH2O-iso does not account for preferential flow, the results in this study will additionally not account for preferential flow. The authors will add a statement that preferential flow is not considered for this study.
R2C9: L.229: assumed root distributions…this is a BIG assumption. How were they assumed?
Response to R2C9: The assumption of root distribution here is that the root distributions follow an exponential distribution, which is consistent with empirical observations when the instrumentation was installed. Parameterisation of the exponential distribution is calibrated. The authors will clarify the assumptions made on the rooting distributions.
R2C10: 3.3.1.: How were the root parameters determined/approximated?
Response to R2C10: As with Response to R2C9 the root parameters are calibrated using transpiration (and sapflux) and isotopic measurements. Description of the calibration of these parameters will be described in more detail in the model calibration section (3.4.2).
R2C11: 3.3.2.: For someone who does not model every day, the explanation on root length determination should be clearer. Coming from the field side of things, I wonder ‘how is maximum rooting depth implemented?’; which measured parameters does one actually need (precipitation and sap flow?). I also wonder, if the general root distribution in the model always has the same shape? This is a large simplification that is definitely not true for any given vegetation species. How does it look like if we have a deep-rooter, for instance?
How was the fact handled that there very likely were willow roots present underneath the grass, affecting soil water contents and hence, the modeling efforts?
Response to R2C11: The authors will clarify the parameterisation of the root length parameters in section 3.3.2. In terms of model set-up (and running), all necessary data (forcing data) are presented in Table 2. In terms of measuring additional variables (or parameters), this is dependent on individual study sites, study objectives, and the sensitivity of the model to the output variable. In terms of rooting depth, the maximum rooting depth is the total soil depth. However, parameterisation of rooting distribution may constrain the roots to be shallower. The rooting distribution always follows the same shape (see Kuppel et al. 2018 for further details) and as the reviewer has suggested is not suitable for all vegetation. The model here was adjusted to allow for rooting to occur from outside of each model cell. In this way, willow roots could access water below the grass. This will be clarified in revision.
R2C12: L.277: this is an interesting point, but it should be noted that there is not only an error in simulating, but also measuring soil water isotopes. I am not saying that it should be, but is there a way to include this in such simulations?
Response to R2C12: While outside of the scope for this manuscript, there are methods to account for measurement uncertainty of both forcing and calibration data within model results. This is generally evaluated externally to the model (e.g. GLUE) and included within the uncertainty bounds.
R2C13: L.288-291: Maximum rooting depth is constrained to 100 cm. This needs to be proven/backed up. Stating another paper under review/discussion (here and in many other instances) is sort of cheating, to me. Root water uptake depths shift over a year and it cannot be assumed for the time of experiment (~3 months) that 100 cm max. rooting depth are a given. Please clarify this; I do believe the authors and a quick search tells me that willow trees are generally shallow rooted. However, another citation would help.
Response to R2C13: We are disappointed with the accusation of “cheating”. Simply for issues of manuscript length in this modelling-focused paper we referred to the openly available HESS-D paper by Landgraf et al. (2021) for measurement details. Nevertheless, the authors will add further empirical justification and explanation from the maximum rooting depth used.
R2C14:L.305: please explain thoroughly, why 18O was not used in calibration
Response to R2C14: The authors will elaborate on why 18O was not used in calibration. Initial testing of model results did not reveal notably advantages to utilizing δ18O within the multicriteria calibration with relative differences of simulated to measured δ2H and simulated to measured δ18O showing very similar responses.
R2C15: L.306: What is meant with ‘the values for 18O were not greatly different from 2H’? First off, these values are usually very different. Second, the dual-isotope space provides an excellent way of validating the effect of kinetic fractionation. Third, I feel like a comparison of measured and modelled values in dual-isotope space would greatly benefit the trust in the model, apart from the statistical parameters.
Response to R2C15: The authors were referring to the trends of 18O and 2H showing very similar responses rather than the absolute values (Response to R2C14). The dual-isotope space for comparison of measured to simulated isotopic data would potentially only reveal some under-enriched shallow soil water below the Willow (as already shown in Fig. 3) where soil evaporation was limited in the model by water availability. As shallow soil isotopes were only one component of the multicriteria calibration, further plotting of additional isotopic variables would not likely reveal more than information already presented within the manuscript.
R2C16: Table 2: Calibration data: Why is only sap flow of 1 tree used? Likewise, Surface Temp and latent heat only from site B? This seems subjectively chosen and is not explained in the text.
Response to R2C16: The authors will revise the text to better indicate why each data were used. Surface temperature and latent heat were measured directed above the grass site (Site B) with the AWS. Sapflow was an average of the sapflow of both willow sapflow (range of sapflow data will be presented in the results during revision) and as both willows experienced the same conditions calibrating both trees to the same sapflow was not deemed necessary.
R2C17: L.324: …starting from likely, it belongs to discussion
Response to R2C17: The authors will move this to the discussion.
R2C18 Results: the subjective phrase like ‘adequate’ or ‘slightly different’ should be backed up by some objective measures in the results section.
Response to R2C18: The authors will revise the results section to quantify the descriptors.
R2C19 L.335-338: Just to clarify: The heating cables were not put inside the soil profile, or were they? I am asking this because we did this mistake once in my group and it turned out the cables heated the surrounding soil, hence, producing a heating of the area around the soil gas probes and tdr probes. As a result, one would calibrate data on a totally non-representative dataset that is highly influenced by the heating cables and not representative for the stand.
Response to R2C20: The heated cables were not installed within the soil profile, but were installed from the installed membranes to the soil surface. In this way, the soil heat profile was not impacted by the heated cables.
R2C20: Figure 3: This looks nice indeed, in particular for Site B! However, I repeat my statement from before that the dual-isotope space allows for a more precise evaluation of model performance and further interpretations such as root water uptake depth or kinetic fractionation. Another thing: There is definitely an uncertainty in the in situ isotope measurements, which is almost never incorporated into modeling. However, modeling always incorporates uncertainty in calibration results. I find this odd and not necessarily correct.
Response to R2C20: The authors thank the reviewer for their positive feedback. The authors hold the opinion that with the number of data points presented and the large overlap, differences, particularly temporal, between the simulated and measured may not be as notable. The authors will add the uncertainty bounds to the isotopic measurements during revision.
R2C21: The complete section 4.1 does not make use of any goodness-of-fit criteria and uses subjective and biased statements throughout. For instance, the calibrated sap flow data is judged as ‘adequately captured by the model’. If I look at Fig.4 I (subjectively) see that the dynamics are OK (Site A) while the magnitudes are sometimes. For site B, there are no measured values for sap flow. This is not convincing to me. I strongly recommend adding goodness-of-fit criteria here.
Response to R2C21: As with the suggestion by the reviewer in R2C18, the authors will add the goodness-of-fit criteria to the results section to better justify the fit of the model.
R2C22 L.343: ‘quite’ well…objective measure?
Response to R2C22: The authors will add the goodness-of-fit criteria.
R2C23 L.396: simulated day-to-day variability could not reproduce the measured values
Response to R2C23: The authors will revise this statement in revision.
R2C24: 4.3: I find this section well-written and less subjective/biased. The general dynamics are met, but it needs to be said that an offset of 10 in d2H is already a large deviation (in isotope space). Now is that because of a non-perfect model fit or, and I am sure that it also plays a role, uncertainty in the in situ measurements. I feel like including some statements/metrics in regard to the measurement part of the second paper submitted by the authors could benefit the interpretation here. I find the aspect of the time-steps quite interesting: Why temporal resolution do we actually need? In isotope-space, daily is already a great resolution.
Response to R2C24: The authors agree that an offset of 10 ‰ can be quite large even for δ2H, which here is due to multiple factors as the reviewer has suggested. There is of course uncertainty in the isotopic measurement. The authors will add some statements regarding the measurement uncertainty in the revision. The discussion of model performance is already in the discussion.
R2C25: L.479/480: ‘with only minor under-estimation of the transpiration in the willows toward the end of the growing season’…I do not agree that the deviation is minor (>50%) nor that the fit is great for the rest of the period. The dynamics fit, but the magnitudes often do not. And at site B, no comparison is provided.
Response to R2C25: The authors will clarify this in the revision. Given the uncertainty of the range of sapflow measurements (will be added to Fig 4) the under-estimation is quite minor and falls within the measurement ranges. The use of KGE rather than NSE emphasised dynamics (mean and variability) over the absolute value of individual events. Here, the absolute magnitudes were strongly dependent on the soil moisture conditions below the willows. No comments on the sapflow at Site B can be made because there were no measurements of sapflow in the grass.
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AC3: 'Reply on RC3', Aaron Smith, 06 Jan 2022