Articles | Volume 22, issue 23
https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-22-7797-2025
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Biases in estimated vegetation indices from observations under cloudy conditions
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- Final revised paper (published on 08 Dec 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2025-2082', Anonymous Referee #1, 06 Jul 2025
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Dear Dr. Wolf and co-authors,
Thank you for developing this framework to address the cloud influence on ground reflectance measurements. Indeed, in the remote sensing community, our field measurements are highly dependent on the illumination conditions, frequently altered by clouds. I have several minor remarks for your consideration.
In eq. 1, 4, 6 what do you mean by the ‘sr’ argument? Pi is already assumed to be in steradian (sr) units, cancelling steradian in the upwelling radiance I.
A bit on the same line, multiplication by pi suggests that the surface reflects homogeneously in all directions, Lambertian reflectance. How big would you expect the influence of the directionality of the actual surface to be on the reflectance value?
On the SCOPE model (section 2.2.2 and Table 2).
Figure 2b. Please, add a legend.
L187 – “Wolf et al. (2024) have shown the influence of clouds on direct and diffuse F↓(λ), the associated effects on F↑(λ),” please, write exactly what the influence was. I guess more clouds – more diffuse radiation.
Figure 3. What do grey areas show? Sentinel-2 bands?
Figures 3 and 4 captions. Please, note, you are working with synthetic (modelled) data. Remove the term “measured” reflectance; do not mislead the readers.
Figure 5. Please, check the location of symbols inside the heatmaps Whereas for NDVI (circle) lambda1 and lambda2 are matching the expected NIR and RED, NDWI1240 is definitely far from lambda1=1240 nm. Furthermore, the symbol in Figures 5c and 5d around lambda1=900nm, lambda2=1600nm is unclear (or absent from the legend).