Articles | Volume 22, issue 2
https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-22-473-2025
© Author(s) 2025. This work is distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
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Assessment framework to predict sensitivity of marine calcifiers to ocean alkalinity enhancement – identification of biological thresholds and importance of precautionary principle
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- Final revised paper (published on 28 Jan 2025)
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Comment types: AC – author | RC – referee | CC – community | EC – editor | CEC – chief editor
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RC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-947', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 May 2024
- AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Nina Bednarsek, 26 Jun 2024
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CC1: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-947', Sarah Cooley, 17 May 2024
- AC3: 'Reply on CC1', Nina Bednarsek, 26 Jun 2024
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RC2: 'Comment on egusphere-2024-947', Anonymous Referee #2, 24 May 2024
- AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Nina Bednarsek, 26 Jun 2024
Peer review completion
AR – Author's response | RR – Referee report | ED – Editor decision | EF – Editorial file upload
ED: Reconsider after major revisions (28 Jun 2024) by Patricia Grasse
ED: Reconsider after major revisions (28 Jun 2024) by Tyler Cyronak (Co-editor-in-chief)
AR by Nina Bednarsek on behalf of the Authors (01 Aug 2024)
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EF by Sarah Buchmann (05 Aug 2024)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (19 Aug 2024) by Patricia Grasse
RR by Anonymous Referee #2 (27 Sep 2024)
ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (02 Oct 2024) by Patricia Grasse
ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (07 Oct 2024) by Tyler Cyronak (Co-editor-in-chief)
AR by Nina Bednarsek on behalf of the Authors (04 Nov 2024)
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ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (06 Nov 2024) by Patricia Grasse
ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (08 Nov 2024) by Tyler Cyronak (Co-editor-in-chief)
AR by Nina Bednarsek on behalf of the Authors (13 Nov 2024)
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AA – Author's adjustment | EA – Editor approval
AA by Nina Bednarsek on behalf of the Authors (21 Jan 2025)
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EA: Adjustments approved (27 Jan 2025) by Patricia Grasse
The study by Bednarsek et al utilizes available data from the ocean acidification literature to evaluate how marine calcifiers could respond to ocean alkalinity enhancement (OAE). The analysis takes a statistical approach. The key concern is their use of the TA:DIC metric, which is considered indicative for carbonate chemistry changes induced by OAE due to its correlation with Omega (concerns detailed below). The value and conceptual basis of TA:DIC is currently unclear or possibly not valid. Therefore the authors would need to use another metric or provide a much better justification for the use of TA:DIC that is found on more than a correlation with Omega. I also have several other comments that warrant attention.
Major:
For the derivation of TA:DIC, it also needs to be considered with what state of OAE the concept correlates. Before equilibration with atmospheric CO2 or after?
One way forward could be correlation analyses of TA:DIC (where TA is left constant and DIC is varied, representative for OA), ideally using the data of the studies synthesised here. It could then be explored if TA:DIC is a useful metric for a specific transient state of OAE (e.g. unequilibrated or equilibrated with the atmosphere). However, if TA:DIC does not reflect carbonate chemistry changes of OAE more comprehensively (much beyond an Omega correlation) then the authors should use another metric to correlate their biological responses with.
Another question in this context is: If TA:DIC is used as a proxy for Omega, why wasn’t Omega used in the first place?
Finally, ratios such as TA:DIC do not consider absolute concentrations, which is another potential weakness for a metric that has not been derived from physiological theory. This is particularly problematic because most of the data is sourced from ocean acidification research, which is looking at the other direction of the pH scale.
Other comments:
Line 24: So far OAE has no relevance for climate change mitigation.
Line 30: success or social license?
Line 40: No parabolic responses?
Line 41ff: What does realistic refer to here? That the conditions in most lab studies are not realistic wrt perturbation magnitude? Also, what would be a realistic perturbation. (I agree with your point but think this is not thoroughly backed up at this stage).
Line 46f: It is totally unclear at this stage what the TA:DIC ratio is a proxy for and why it is helpful. This must either be explained or taken out of the abstract.
Line 48: Unclear what framework you are referring to. TA:DIC? Needs specification.
Line 69: CDRs is a weird plural. Removals?? Do you mean marine CDR methods?
Line 78: Some OAE methods are well beyond concept stage (see Eisaman et al., 2023)
Line 100: adaptation or acclimation? (I think you mean the latter).
Line 109: Alkaline or “higher pH”. Strictly speaking OA still investigated alkaline conditions wrt pH.
Line 121: Unclear how a systematic framework should help here. Vague term.
Line 139: The sentence implies that massive applications will happy anyway, in which case the environmental assessment before would implicitly have no influence on whether they are implemented.
Line 153: Based on what criterion were studies selected? Were all studies selected that were found by browsing? Or the first X hits?
Line 153: Were temperature differences between treatments in the OA studies considered?
Line 242: Unclear how NaOH was added to the TA:DIC ratio.
Line 242: Unclear why a parabolic response is by default a negative response. This requires additional justification.
Figure 2 is unclear. Is this the entire dataset? Or a specific subset of data from various species. It is also unclear if each datapoint is a treatment level from an individual study.
Line 270: The “not strong” correlation between Omega and TA:DIC basically underscores that this metric is not representative of OAE.
Line 308: 98 or 96?
Line 373: How do you convert a response observed as TA:DIC ratio into a delta_concentration above which thresholds are reached?
Line 408: Several decades is exaggerated.
Line 412: while…while
Line 446: An interesting question would be if the results here are consistent with predictions for species where predictions are possible due to mechanistic understanding.
Line 466: The study by Albright did not show higher calcification rates but higher net calcification in a reef, which according to the authors could be due to reduced dissolution of the reef platform.
Line 553: Unclear how the framework would be able to establish baseline conditions, which vary in time and space. If a new framework is proposed here then it should be spelled out much more thoroughly. It is currently very vague.