Articles | Volume 20, issue 15
https://doi.org/10.5194/bg-20-3203-2023
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Seasonal and interannual variability of the pelagic ecosystem and of the organic carbon budget in the Rhodes Gyre (eastern Mediterranean): influence of winter mixing
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General comments
The manuscript presents the results of a 3D coupled hydrodynamic-biogeochemical model over 2013-2020 period, investigating the seasonal and inter-annual variability of the pelagic ecosystem in Rhodes Gyre, a known site of Levantine Intermediate Water (LIW) formation. Given the lack of other 3D biogeochemical modelling studies in this area, the manuscript presents an important scientific interest. The biogeochemical model results are thoroughly validated and an extensive analysis is provided, adequately discussing different aspects of ecosystem dynamics, with regard to the impact of vertical mixing on phytoplankton growth, organic carbon fluxes and implications for carbon sequestration. Therefore, I recommend the manuscript acceptance for publication, following a minor to moderate revision, according to the comments listed below (in order of appearance).
Specific comments
L59
“Other studies have also reported LIW formations in the Gulf of Antalya (Sur et al., 1992; Kubin et al., 2019; Fach et al., 2021), in the southeastern margins of the basin or along the continental margins of the totality of the Levantine Basin (Brenner et al., 1991; Lascaratos et al. 1993; Özsoy et al. 1993).”
You could include the Cretan Sea, as a potential site for LIW formation, following Taillandier et al. (2022).
L192
“The position of the region respecting the set of criteria varying from year to year, we chose the smallest outline in order to cover the most of the gyre during the period of study.
Not totally clear how you specify the “smallest outline”. Please explain.
L206
“ The physical contribution of the budget is divided into two components: lateral transport and vertical
transport, both due to mixing and advection. “
In the lateral transport do you consider also horizontal mixing?
Because Eq.S3 probably refers only to advection by currents
L265
“Figure 2 shows the temporal variation of the satellite and modeled surface chlorophyll averaged all over the Levantine Sea”
Perhaps you could also show the model/satellite comparison for the Rhodes Gyre area. This would highlight the difference of this area, as compared to the Levantine basin and also validate the simulated inter-annual variability.
L281
“NRMSD (23%)”
I guess RMSD is normalized with data STD? Meaning that the error is 23% of the data STD.
You could clarify this in the figure caption and/or text
L299
“The model reproduces the general features of the nitrate and phosphate concentration profiles with an increase from the surface to 500-1000 m and a gradual, low decrease below (Fig. 3).”
Given that the model is initialized from observation profiles, isn’t that expected? Perhaps it would be more meaningful if the comparison focuses on the surface layer, as with Chl.
Also it is mentioned (section 2.1.3) that nutrients are initialized from summer CARIMED profiles, while summer nutrients are not included in Fig.3
L300
“The modeled phosphate and nitrate, concentrations in the transitional layer (500-1000), located between the intermediate and deep layers, are in the lower range values of observations.”
This can be seen mostly for phosphate.
L306
“PERLE 1 and PERLE 2 phosphate observations show high variability, with a SD ~ 0.065 and 0.062 mmol P m -3 respectively. “
The Taylor diagram seems a bit confusing. Blue dots should normally be the data points (correlation=1), not the model.
L370
“We display both nitrate and phosphate due to their role of limitation on primary production in this region (Moutin and Raimbault, 2002).”
Not sure what you mean here. Isn’t phosphate the main limiting nutrient?
L382
“Increases in plankton and DOC concentrations under the surface layer (0-150 m) are clearly visible during that period (Fig. 6). “
Not clear what you mean, as DOC follows a different pattern from phytoplankton (decreases during winter)
L386
“the surface nitrate concentration ranging between 0.3 and 1 mmol N m -3, in agreement with the observations of Yilmaz and Tugrul (1998)”
Does this refers to winter period? After April this is <0.1mmol/m3. Please clarify in the text
L422
“Lateral export is more important for POC, with values exceeding 10 mmol C m -2 d-1 over several months for some summer/fall, when the DOC lateral export shows little variation along the period (Fig. 7f). “
Any explanation for this?
L425
“in summer and autumn, when DOC can be injected into the surface layer.”
Not clear what you mean here. Please explain.
L436
“A secondary peak of OC respiration is visible in fall when the maximum POC concentration is the deepest.”
Not totally clear. Please explain.
L499
“The surface values fall in the lower range of observations (41-100 mmol C m-3), which could be partly explained by the locations of the observations, mostly outside the Rhodes Gyre in more stratified and less productive regions.“
Do you see such pattern (increase of DOC in less productive waters) in the model?
L507
“Regarding the organic carbon biological fluxes, the seven year averaged annual NPP that amounts to 115 ± 15 g”
Maybe you could add the mean NPP for the EM for comparison with other studies and also indicating the relatively higher magnitude in the RG area.
L515
“The mean annual POC export at 150 m depth is estimated in the model at 11.9 ± 3.4 g C m -2 year -1 .”
This refers to the Rhodes gyre area? Please clarify in the text.
L540
“The intensification of the cyclonic circulation in fall favors the shallowing of the nutriclines.”
I think part of this shallowing might be also related to the solar radiation seasonal variability and the deepening of the DCM.
Although this is partly illustrated based on the interannual variability, given that the study focuses on the Rhodes Gyre, it would be nice to show (maybe with a figure in the supplement) for comparison the difference from another area or an average over the Levantine where such shallowing of the nutriclines, related with the circulation does not occur.
L575
“On the other hand, the model PP relies at 30% on the uptake of nitrate, and at 70% on the uptake of ammonium (not shown). The former is significantly correlated with HL (R> 0.88, Fig. 10g) and MLD, whereas no correlation can be found between the latter and HL (R< 0.69, Fig. 10h) or winter mixing.”
This might be a bit misleading, as PP is generally well correlated with mixing/heat loss. I would suggest to rephrase
L601
“For example, the dates of maximum MLD and chlorophyll are in March during both the mild winter 2013-14 and the severe winter 2014-15 (Table S1).”
Not clear. Table S1 indicates 12Feb for Chl(2013-2014) and 20Feb for MLD(2014-2015). Please clarify.
Technical corrections
L74
“Ediger and Yilmaz (1996) highlighted interannual variability”
the interannual variability
L115
“we use a 3D hydrodynamic-biogeochemical coupled modeling”
we use 3-D ..coupled model simulations..
L146
“As for the Gibraltar Strait, a narrowing was conducted with a 1.3 km grid for a better representation of the exchange area between the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean.”
Better rephrase
e.g. ..Strait, the model resolution was further increased…
L148
“and closer levels ranging near the surface.”
better rephrase e.g. and increased resolution near the surface
L151
“The SYMPHONIE simulation runs”
Better rephrase e.g ..simulation is performed from..
L154
“monthly discharges were based on the study of Poulos et al. (1997),”
you mean monthly climatology?
L156
“We used the daily 3D current velocity, temperature, salinity and vertical diffusivity outputs of the hydrodynamic simulations as forcing fields for the biogeochemical model run. “
Is salinity somehow involved in biogeochemical processes?
L175
“concentrations of nutrients were imposed at subbasin scale”
Not sure what you mean by subbasin
L211
“The internal variation of organic carbon inventory, biological term and lateral physical term were
calculated online,”
Please rephrase “online” e.g. calculated from model output
L259
“The hydrodynamical model was evaluated and validated “
“evaluated” and “validated” appear quite similar
L292
“could be attributed in part to an underestimation in winter of chlorophyll concentration in satellite data in the Levantine Sea”
rephrase to be more concise
e.g. an underestimation of satellite chl concentration during winter in the Levantine...
L318
“ In winter, the surface oxygen concentration is maximal coinciding with the peak of surface
chlorophyll.”
Rephrase e.g As with Chl-a, the surface oxygen concentration is maximum during winter..
L386
“Phytoplankton accumulation”
Not sure if accumulation is the wright word. Maybe phytoplankton growth?
L409
“the time series of the variation of the organic carbon inventory, of biogeochemical fluxes and
of vertical and horizontal exchanges at the limits of the two boxes.”
Rephrase
e.g. the variability of the organic carbon inventory, the biogeochemical fluxes and the vertical and horizontal exchanges at the limits of the two boxes.
L488
“We notice however an underestimation in the magnitude of the modeled maximum chlorophyll and dissolved oxygen concentration when comparing with both the BGC-Argo float and cruise data.”
You refer to the sub-surface maximum? Please clarify in the text
L561
“We found a significant correlation between nutrient injection and mean winter
HL (heat loss) or mean winter MLD (higher than 0.85)”
repeated above. Please rephrase or merge.
L700
“High interannual variability of annual”
The high…
FigS2
“Red dots represent the river mouths.” is repeated in the Fig.caption